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Just putting it out there for the benefit of others: avoid tedswoodworking.com as a source for woodworking plans. I am usually pretty careful about where I purchase things, but this one looked like a pretty good deal, and appeared to be legitimate. But, I was wrong, and I want to share my mistake with the rest of you so that you don't make the same mistake that I did.
If you take the time to watch their video, they promise you thousands of step by step plans for various woodworking projects for $67 plus tax. I am not a woodworker, but I am learning, and I also wish to learn more so that I can build a few projects for around the house. Some step by step projects would be a good thing to help me learn what seems rather foreign to me. Considering that a book of plans at the big box store can cost $20 or $30 for just a few plans, $67 for a whole bunch of plans to download in DWG format sounds like a pretty good deal. They offer a 60 day money back guarantee, and the purchase is actually handled through ClickBank, a rather well known third party sales handler. I figured I was pretty safe, right?? WRONG!!
I paid my money and downloaded a few plans to have a look at them. Instead of being a DWG file, it was a PDF, which was okay, but it was a digital copy of a set of copyrighted plans that was published by Popular Mechanics. I immediately started to feel that I had been scammed. I downloaded and checked a few other plans, they were all pirated as well from sources such as Lowe's, Black and Decker, Woodcraft, and Rockler.
Needless to say I was not too happy. I immediately set about the process of requesting a "no questions asked refund" through both the tedswoodworking site and through ClickBank, both of which have responded with automated emails that I should hear back from them within a couple of business days. Keep in mind that finding the place to request a refund was rather difficult and it took some time to find it. We'll see what happens within a couple of days and I will post an update. I am not going to hold my breath for a good outcome on this one. Luckily I can submit my issue to my bank/credit card company for fraud, so I should be able to get my money back one way or another.
The loss of $67 is not what bothers me, I will hardly notice that it is gone. But what does chap my hide is the fact that they are selling copyrighted material, some of which is available for FREE on other sites, and they are generating a profit off of someone else's work without any kind of permission. The owner of the tedswoodworking.com site is hidden in the WhoIs database through a company that is designed to do just that: hide the ownership of disreputable websites. Chances are good that the owner of tedswoodworking.com is living on an island somewhere outside the United States and is immune from prosecution for copyright infringement.
Sorry this got so long, but I figure that it is valuable information for others that are seeking woodworking plans. Choose carefully and research the seller BEFORE you agree to purchase anything. If I had done just two minutes of research FIRST, I wouldn't be in the process of trying to get my money back.
Purchase carefully, my friends!
If you take the time to watch their video, they promise you thousands of step by step plans for various woodworking projects for $67 plus tax. I am not a woodworker, but I am learning, and I also wish to learn more so that I can build a few projects for around the house. Some step by step projects would be a good thing to help me learn what seems rather foreign to me. Considering that a book of plans at the big box store can cost $20 or $30 for just a few plans, $67 for a whole bunch of plans to download in DWG format sounds like a pretty good deal. They offer a 60 day money back guarantee, and the purchase is actually handled through ClickBank, a rather well known third party sales handler. I figured I was pretty safe, right?? WRONG!!
I paid my money and downloaded a few plans to have a look at them. Instead of being a DWG file, it was a PDF, which was okay, but it was a digital copy of a set of copyrighted plans that was published by Popular Mechanics. I immediately started to feel that I had been scammed. I downloaded and checked a few other plans, they were all pirated as well from sources such as Lowe's, Black and Decker, Woodcraft, and Rockler.
Needless to say I was not too happy. I immediately set about the process of requesting a "no questions asked refund" through both the tedswoodworking site and through ClickBank, both of which have responded with automated emails that I should hear back from them within a couple of business days. Keep in mind that finding the place to request a refund was rather difficult and it took some time to find it. We'll see what happens within a couple of days and I will post an update. I am not going to hold my breath for a good outcome on this one. Luckily I can submit my issue to my bank/credit card company for fraud, so I should be able to get my money back one way or another.
The loss of $67 is not what bothers me, I will hardly notice that it is gone. But what does chap my hide is the fact that they are selling copyrighted material, some of which is available for FREE on other sites, and they are generating a profit off of someone else's work without any kind of permission. The owner of the tedswoodworking.com site is hidden in the WhoIs database through a company that is designed to do just that: hide the ownership of disreputable websites. Chances are good that the owner of tedswoodworking.com is living on an island somewhere outside the United States and is immune from prosecution for copyright infringement.
Sorry this got so long, but I figure that it is valuable information for others that are seeking woodworking plans. Choose carefully and research the seller BEFORE you agree to purchase anything. If I had done just two minutes of research FIRST, I wouldn't be in the process of trying to get my money back.
Purchase carefully, my friends!
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