Gator Chuck?

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I'm looking for a 6" 6 jaw chuck. I've been looking at the Buck but the buck backplate is so expensive. I've also looked at the Gator which incudes the backplate for about same price as just the Buck chuck. Can someone here who has used them both tell me if the Gator is worth buying or just go ahead and spend the extra money and buy the buck.
 
I have a 6" 6-jaw Gator and it's a good chuck. Never owned the buck, but I wouldn't have any reservations about buying the Gator.

GsT
 
I have quite a few Bison, TOS, a TMX, a Pratt & Burnerd (English made), Rohm (German made), Cushman, Buck, Yama, Gator and a few other brands of chucks most of which are forged steel.

Buck used to be a really good chuck. However, I believe the current crop is made in China, and since I haven’t used any of those, I can’t comment on them.

I have a Gator 6” 6-jaw set-true with a forged steel chuck and backplate which I use on a 10EE. I also have a 12.5” set-true Gator that I run on an American Pacemaker. Plus one other 6” direct mount Gator forged steel chuck. The forged chucks have all been quite good. I did have one of their 3-jaw cast iron chucks that I thought the fit of the jaws was sloppy although it had a decent run out. I ended up returning it. Its replacement (another cast iron 3-jaw Gator) was fine. I use it on a Southbend Heavy 10.

I also worked on a Gator 3-jaw cast iron for a friend whose backplate was a less-than-ideal fit on the spindle. It contacted the back face register before the taper on a D1-3, and this caused some chatter issues. Ideally it should contact the taper first and then seat on the back flat requiring a light tap to break free. I had to regrind the backplate on that one.

If you have questions about any of them, I encourage you to contact Ajax Tools and talk to Gary as he seems to be up on the current level of quality of the various chucks.
 
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Gator chucks are kind of hit or miss according to others that have owned them, Probably the lower end ones are just that, same as with other chuck companies. Buck chucks, my recollection is they are not longer US made and just rebranded. The 6 Jaw chucks do come up on eBay at times if you wait long enough and sometimes at good prices. If you are spending that level of money, I would also look at Bison, TMX and PBA (Pratt burned) chucks. Bison, TMX and Gator use the same dimensions on many of their chucks, so there is some cost savings (about 50%) if you buy a Gator back plate for a Bison/TMX chuck. I have a Gator back plate on one of my Bison chucks.




6" BISON 6 Jaw SET-TRU Chuck Forged Steel 7-868-0600 MSC is listing it at $1369 for the forged steel. Should be able to use a Gator back plate with it, you can check the dimension on-lone.
Bison Manual Lathe Chuck: 6-1/4" Dia, 6 Jaws, Self-Centering
Master Top Jaws, Plain Back Mount, Adjustable, 2,500 Max RPM
MSC# 08610008 Mfr# 7-868-0600
Big Book Page# 1409

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