Feature or bug?

Bill Kahn

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I am a beginner. Bought from Shars a 2” machinist vise. You’ll see in the photo the notches are not aligned directly across from each other. They start off close (not quite) and then become increasingly displaced, ending up a third of a pin diameter off from each other. Seems like a bug to me and so I should return. What a strange kind of manufacturing blunder. But, is it a feature of this kind of vise? Thanks. -Bill 290403290404
 
That is weird that a manufacturer could make such a huge blunder. That error appears to be casting mold. If so, that could be a major problem for the manufacturer.
 
Yup, that's a big problem. Send it back.
 
I try to buy quality most of the time but i have had some success with the Chineseum tooling.
What you see with the vise is just another example of poor quality
 
I try to buy quality most of the time but i have had some success with the Chineseum tooling.
What you see with the vise is just another example of poor quality

It's hard for me to believe that any company can be this bad. This equals zero quality control. Either that, or a purposeful attempt to unload known bad products. I actually suspect the latter. There are a lot of people who will buy something like this and just not bother returning it. That results in the company getting to dump a bad batch of products off on unsuspecting consumers.

I'd definitely return it. If the company is honest it needs to know about the flaw. And if the company is trying to dump bad products on purpose then it deserves to have them returned. Either way, return it for sure.
 
I also have a machinist's vice from Shars. It has 2016-4-25-194 etched on top of the movable jaw. The pin notches line up OK but the part that the pin goes through that attaches to the tightening screw would bind up and not work as delivered. I made that part new and also a new pin. I don't care for the way this vice is designed. Would not buy it again.
 
You roll the dice with Shars.
That is true, Jeff. However, in my experience we roll the dice on every inexpensive Chinese thing we purchase from any vendor. I do not say that to mean we should not buy any inexpensive Chinese tools, rather that we should not deceived into thinking that there are reliably good sources of better quality inexpensive Chinese tools and tooling. Why pay more to roll the dice for similar odds of success from another seller? The real truth is that quality control and quality assurance are the first things thrown out the window for making cheap tools at a profit.
 
I have come to believe quality control is now in the hands of the purchaser irrespective of where the product was manufactured.
It all stems from the creed of greed or maximum profits with zero costs.
I sort of agree with that thought, savarin. There are still countries that make very good products, like say, Switzerland. I cannot think of anything coming here from Switzerland that is poorly made. On the other hand, Swiss stuff is universally quite expensive here, and probably going higher yet, due to ever fewer potential purchasers being willing to pay many times the cost for a visually similar product. The same is true of the diminishing USA made stuff from makers who continue to put quality first. The price gap seems to be widening, and the cheap stuff appears to be mostly winning, except for exotic stuff being paid for by institutions with deep pockets, like governments.
 
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