Early Cincinnati with a Bridgeport head and a variety of questions

[BCNU6OF1]

I'm still in the process of moving this thing 100 miles, but for me, the price was right, and it will give me a fun project.
The horizontal mill is a Cincinnati #2 universal circa 1897- already downloaded the catalog/treatise from Vintage machinery.
First question, the book says 2125 lbs- is that the mill alone or would that be with all the stuff it was originally sold with? And can I put straps on the ram to lift it with an engine hoist? It looks like a good place, and my hoist definitely is rated for it. As long as I'm asking about that, should I shoot lag bolts into the trailer through the base for added insurance?
The Bridgeport head - M series? I'll get better pics once I get it home, right now I'm trying to dodge snow and rope friends into helping move it (my truck is almost back together, but that's another story)
This thing has been sitting, years and years, so I'm going to be going through it fairly thoroughly before starting the motors.
So far I removed the main motor, the Bridgeport head motor (and pulley on that side) the column the motor was mounted on, and the 4 speed truck auxiliary transmission they were using. At least it reminds me of an old Brownie box, and it's definitely a transmission - Western Manufacturing Co. 9003. Trying to figure out what to replace it with - that just is hoopty. Second set of cones? Other thoughts? I'm not going vfd because I am not a fan of electronic anything besides ignition and even then, I'm fine with setting points, lol.
Finally, I also got a little 601 Jefferson power hacksaw (and a rotary table, end mills, vises, etc). I was (and still am) looking for a marvel #2 draw saw, but in the meantime, any good modifications for them?
I'll have other questions, I'm sure.

 

[markba633csi]

What, you don't like hoopty? LOL
We call it a Frankenmill- it's alive, it's alive!

 

[matthewsx]

The ram/overarm should be stout enough to lift from, either that or the spindle if you run a suitable lifting sling through it.

Lag bolts might keep it from shifting but that's not likely to happen with the weight you have, couldn't hurt though. I'd remove everything above the ram if possible before you start moving it, always seems like something gets in the way when I'm lifting with my engine hoist. Make sure the hoist can get to where it needs to be on your trailer before you get the load on it, you may want a winch or come along to pull the machine into place once you get it on the trailer.

Bring jack-stands to hold the corners of your trailer up when you place the mill and it should go without saying to bring plenty of 2" ratchet straps and/or load binders with chains and carpet scraps for pinch points. Most important, remember we move these things with our minds, not our muscles. Go slow and think about everything that could go wrong before you make any moves, don't get in a hurry no matter what the weather or situation.

I'd leave the transmission on there if I were you. You've already decided not to use a VFD so the tranny is a good way to change speeds quickly, flat belts can be a pain to shift around. And, obviously it worked for the previous owner, it's an industrial unit not one swiped from an old truck as we've seen before on here. Plus, you can put an eight ball on the shift lever for that extra cool factor....

Looking forward to following this journey, should be able to do some serious work with that combo.

John

 

[BCNU6OF1]

The ram/overarm should be stout enough to lift from, either that or the spindle if you run a suitable lifting sling through it.

Lag bolts might keep it from shifting but that's not likely to happen with the weight you have, couldn't hurt though. I'd remove everything above the ram if possible before you start moving it, always seems like something gets in the way when I'm lifting with my engine hoist. Make sure the hoist can get to where it needs to be on your trailer before you get the load on it, you may want a winch or come along to pull the machine into place once you get it on the trailer.

Bring jack-stands to hold the corners of your trailer up when you place the mill and it should go without saying to bring plenty of 2" ratchet straps and/or load binders with chains and carpet scraps for pinch points. Most important, remember we move these things with our minds, not our muscles. Go slow and think about everything that could go wrong before you make any moves, don't get in a hurry no matter what the weather or situation.

I'd leave the transmission on there if I were you. You've already decided not to use a VFD so the tranny is a good way to change speeds quickly, flat belts can be a pain to shift around. And, obviously it worked for the previous owner, it's an industrial unit not one swiped from an old truck as we've seen before on here. Plus, you can put an eight ball on the shift lever for that extra cool factor....

Looking forward to following this journey, should be able to do some serious work with that combo.

John

Thanks!
My only thought with the transmission was it seemed a bit weird. I'll probably clean it up, paint it something like black, and put a skull shifter on, lol. That way I can at least get the mill working and think about changing it later.
I appreciate the advice on loading it, I've already taken everything above the ram off except for the Bridgeport head (couldn't get it to release, but it's only supposed to be around 40 lbs).
Jeff