Dunlap and Powercraft Bandsaws

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I acquired 2 tabletop bandsaws as shown in the pictures. The Dunlap needs a motor added. What is a suggested motor and pulley size I should use to run it?

For the Wards Powercraft, I need a saw blade. Would wrapping a string around the wheels work for getting a good length? Also, if I wanted it to be used to cut brass, what type blade would you suggest. Is there a reason to have the blade speed at a certain level for proper cutting?

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Steel cutting requires a much slower blade speed than cutting non-ferrous metals.
The Wards saw looks like it may be set up too fast for cutting metal with the pulleys shown; the motor pulley looks much too large
 
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Here is a speed chart in surface feet per minute for bandsaws. There are online charts to figure pulley sizes to get the surface feet per minute. Maybe a step pulley would be better to get more varieties of speeds. I like the look of the Dunlop and the Wards looks like a sturdy saw. You can probably disregard the 3-6" material size Lol.
Cheers
Martin
BAND SPEED AND RECOMMEND CUTTING RATES FOR BI-METAL SAWING APPLICATIONS
Regardless of them type of steel you are working with, the Saw Blade Speed and Feed Chart can help you determine the right blade speed and cutting rate for your cutting operation. Its easy-to-read format and wide range of metal options makes it a useful resource for shops around the nation.
The Band Saw Blade Speed and Feed Chart is divided primarily by material size: Up to one inch, one to three inches, three to six inches, and over six inches. Below the material size is the suggested tooth pitch for that material size. Beneath tooth pitch, the chart lists the blade speed and cutting rate for each type of material size. Each column of blade speeds and cutting rates is arranged by row according to material type.
Each category of material has its different varieties listed beneath it. Metal categories include a huge range of steels, nickel and titanium alloys, copper, and pure titanium.
Material Size Up to 1" From 1" to 3" From 3" to 6" Over 6"
Suggested tooth pitch 10/14, 8/12 8/12, 6/10, 5/8 5/8, 4/6, 3/4 3/4, 2/3, 1.5/1.9, 1.1/1.4
Blade Speed Cutting Rate Blade Speed Cutting Rate Blade Speed Cutting Rate Blade Speed Cutting Rate
(SFPM) (SIPM) (SFPM) (SIPM) (SFPM) (SIPM) (SFPM) (SIPM)
Carbon Steel:
1008-1013 250 8-10 275 9-12 280 12-15 250 9-12
1015-1018 250 8-10 275 9-12 250 12-15 230 12-15
1048-1065 200 5-7 200 5-7 175 5-10 150 5-10
1065-1095 200 4-6 200 5-7 150 6-8 120 6-8
Free Machining Steels
1108-1111 300 9-11 330 12-14 275 13-15 220 11-14
1112-1113 300 8-11 330 11-13 275 12-15 220 12-15
1115-1132 300 7-10 330 10-13 275 13-16 220 11-14
1137-1151 275 6-8 250 8-10 250 8-11 200 7-10
1212-1213 300 8-10 320 11-13 300 13-15 255 11-14
Manganese Steels:
1320-1330 250 5-7 250 5-8 200 8-11 175 7-10
1335-1345 250 5-7 225 5-7 200 7-9 175 5-8
Nickel Steels:
2317- 270 4-5 270 4-6 250 5-7 230 4-6
2330-2345 220 2-3 220 3-5 190 3-5 170 3-5
2512-2517 200 2-3 200 3-5 160 4-6 150 4-6
Nickel Chrome Steels:
3115-3130 260 4-6 260 5-7 230 5-7 225 5-7
3135-3150 220 4-6 200 4-7 180 5-7 160 4-6
Molybdenum Steels:
4017-4024 300 3-5 270 4-7 250 6-8 220 5-8
4032-4042 300 3-5 270 4-7 250 6-8 230 5-8
4047-4068 250 3-5 220 4-6 200 5-7 180 3-5
Chrome Moly Steels:
4130-4140 280 4-6 250 5-8 250 8-10 220 6-8
4142-4150 230 3-5 200 4-6 200 5-7 170 4-6
Nickel Chrome Moly steels:
4317-4320 250 3-5 225 4-6 200 5-7 170 4-6
4337-4340 230 3-4 200 4-5 200 4-6 170 4-5
8615-8627 250 4-5 230 6-7 230 6-8 200 6-7
8630-8645 250 3-5 230 4-6 230 5-7 180 4-6
8647-8660 220 2-4 200 3-5 200 4-6 150 3-5
8715-8750 250 3-5 220 4-6 220 5-7 180 4-6
9310-9317 200 1-3 160 2-3 160 2-4 150 2-3
9437-9445 250 4-5 230 4-5 230 5-6 180 4-5
9747-9763 250 4-5 230 3-5 200 4-6 180 3-5
9840-9850 240 4-5 220 4-6 200 5-7 180 4-6
Nickel Moly Steels:
4608-4621 250 3-5 220 5-6 220 6-7 200 5-6
4640- 220 3-5 200 4-6 200 5-7 170 4-6
4812-4820 200 3-5 180 3-5 180 4-6 160 4-5
Chrome Steels:
5045-5046 280 4-6 250 5-7 250 8-10 200 7-8
5120-5135 280 4-6 250 6-7 240 7-8 180 5-8
5140-5160 250 3-5 230 4-6 230 5-7 200 4-6
50100-52100 180 2-4 160 3-5 150 4-6 100 3-5
Chrome Vanadium steels:
6117-6210 225 4-5 225 5-7 200 6-8 170 5-7
6145-6152 225 3-4 200 4-5 200 5-6 150 4-5
Silicon Steels:
9255-9260 200 2-4 180 3-5 180 3-5 150 3-5
9261-9262 200 1-3 160 2-3 160 2-4 150 2-3
High Speed Tool Steels:
T-1, T-2 130 1-2 110 2-3 100 2-4 90 2-3
T-4, T-5 110 1-2 100 1-2 90 2-3 80 1-2
T-6, T-8 110 1-2 100 1-2 80 1-2 70 1-2
T-15 80 1 80 1 70 1 50 1
M-1 150 1-3 140 2-4 130 3-5 110 2-4
M-2, M-3 120 1-2 110 2-3 100 3-4 80 2-3
M-4, M-10 100 1-2 90 1-2 80 1-3 60 1-2
Die Steels:
A-2 210 2-3 200 3-4 190 3-4 180 2-3
D-2, D-3 110 1-2 100 1-2 90 1-2 80 1-2
D-7 90 1 80 1 70 1 70 1
O-1, O-2 240 3-4 210 4-5 190 5-6 170 4-5
O-6 230 3-4 200 4-6 180 5-7 150 4-6
Hot Work Steels:
H-12, H-13, H-21 150 2-4 125 3-5 125 2-4 125 2-4
H-22, H-24, H-25 150 1-3 125 1-3 125 1-3 125 1-3
Shock Resisting Tool Steels:
S-1 220 2-4 180 3-5 165 3-5 150 2-4
S-2, S-5 170 1-3 150 2-4 120 2-4 100 1-3
Special Purpose Tool Steels:
L-6 200 2-4 180 3-5 170 3-5 150 2-4
L-7 200 2-4 180 3-5 150 3-5 100 2-4
Stainless Steels:
201, 202, 302, 304 120 2-4 100 2-4 100 2-4 100 1-3
303, 303F 140 2-4 120 2-4 100 3-5 100 2-4
308, 309, 310, 330 90 1 70 1 60 2 60 1
314, 316, 317 90 1 80 1 70 2 60 1
321, 347 130 1-3 110 1-3 100 2-4 80 1-3
410, 420, 420F 150 1-3 130 1-3 120 2-4 100 1-3
416, 430F 200 3-5 180 4-6 170 5-7 150 4-6
430, 446 100 1-3 90 2-4 80 2-4 80 1-3
440 A.B.C 120 1-3 100 1-3 90 2-4 70 1-3
A-7 100 1-3 100 1-3 120 2-4 100 1-3
17-4PH, 17-7PH 100 2-3 90 2-4 80 3-4 80 2-3
Beryllium Copper:
BHN-100-120 350 4-6 300 5-7 275 6-8 225 5-7
BHN-220-250 250 2-4 225 3-5 200 4-6 175 3-5
BHN-310-340 200 1-2 160 1-2 140 2-3 100 1-2
Nickel Based Alloys:
Monel 100 1-2 100 1-2 80 1-2 60 1
R Monel 140 2-3 140 2-4 125 2-4 75 2-3
Inconel 110 1-2 100 1-3 80 1-3 80 1-2
Inconel X 90 1 80 1 70 1 60 1
Hastelloy A 120 1-2 100 1-2 85 1-2 75 1-2
Hastelloy B 110 0-1 100 1-2 90 1-2 75 0-1
Hastelloy C 100 0-1 90 0-1 70 0-1 60 0-1
Rene 41 90 1 90 1 90 1-2 90 1-2
Udimit 100 1 90 1-2 90 0-1 90 1-2
Waspalloy 90 1 90 1-2 90 1-2 90 1-2
Titanium 100 1-2 100 2-3 100 2-3 100 2-3
Titanium Alloys:
TI-4AL-4MO alpha beta alloy 100 0-1 90 0-1 80 0-1 70 0-1
TI-14OA 2CR-2MO 100 0-1 90 0-1 80 0-1 60 0-1
TI-150A 100 0-1 90 0-1 80 0-1 60 0-1
MST-6AL-4V 100 0-1 90 0-1 80 0-1 60 0-1
99% pure titanium 100 0-1 90 0-1 80 0-1 60 0-1
Remember that while this chart is a practical asset to your workshop, there are a lot of factors it doesn't take into account. The state of your band saw machine, for example, is essential to making accurate, successful cuts: Be sure that it's properly maintained in order to achieve the premium results. Experienced band saw machine operators are also important to attaining the best outcome.

If you have any questions about blade speed and cutting rate, please don?t hesitate to call Sawblade.com at 800-745-6920. Our experienced customer service professionals are ready to take your call.
 
Tubalcain did a series of videos on converting a wood cutting bandsaw to metal cutting by reducing blade
speed. It takes a while to watch all of them, but there is lots of good info there on how to do it.

 
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