I got myself a test indicator to go with Dad's pile of nice indicator holders and sticky indicators. One problem, nothing fits the eyelet in the back of the indicator. Pooey. I need to hold my indicator to dial the pieces in for making an indicator holder. So I cobble up a bunch of @#$% to indicate work in 4 jaw from the top. Not recommended but worked,slowly. As you can see in the photos there was not much excess material. This led to the grinding of a left and right hook that cuts on both axis to true diameter and cut a square shoulder without hitting chuck or live center. Forgive it's funny looks, but form followed function. The finished piece fits in the eyelet and the other end fits in indicator holders at .250. I need to make a screw that I can operate with my fingers without using the knurling tool I don't own yet. I have my eye on a piece of small brass hex that would work well.