DeWalt Cordless 20v drill. Chuck replacement help please

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Hey all.
Boy did I luck out. The Torx T20 broke off at the chuck retaining screw.
I was able to get it out with a magnet, whew!!

Is this left hand thread?
Can you suggest a good replacement chuck? This one won’t hold a darn thing. The drill is in great shape.
Hopefully a good replacement isn’t more than a Milwaukee replacement drill.

Thanks for your help.
 

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Yes, the center retaining screw is usually LH thread. They sell replacement screws that are easy to find on ebay or amazon. The chuck itself threaded on the spindle is normal RH. You can put blue thread lock on the center screw when reassembling but don't put thread lock on the chuck/spindle threads.

Rohm is one of the better choices if you want a good quality & reliable replacement chuck. Might as well get the ratcheting lock type if you plan to keep/use the drill for a while. If not there are cheaper options like non-ratcheting lock. There was another brand that was a bit cheaper than Rohm that had a red band on the sleeve, I forget the brand but now there are lots of generic no name brands selling chucks that look similar. Jacobs also make replacements. My old Dewalt XRP nicad came with a Jacobs on it, never had a problem with it unlike my Milwaukee. But ever since Jacobs manufacturing was moved overseas I no longer recommend their stuff anymore. Doesn't mean a Jacobs won't be decent though.

The MW I have was known to have chuck problems & unfortunately mine did also. I cheaped out & just went with a new MW chuck (no idea who makes it). Was a great upgrade & hasn't gave me a problem yet but if I had to do it over I would just get a Rohm.

Oh BTW, check the spindle thread before ordering the chuck. They're usually 1/2"-20 but some newer drills are 9/16" now, my MW was 9/16" also.

When I replaced mine:
https://www.hobby-machinist.com/threads/my-misc-quickie-projects.76777/page-5#post-746568
 
Yes, the center retaining screw is usually LH thread. They sell replacement screws that are easy to find on ebay or amazon. The chuck itself threaded on the spindle is normal RH. You can put blue thread lock on the center screw when reassembling but don't put thread lock on the chuck/spindle threads.

Rohm is one of the better choices if you want a good quality & reliable replacement chuck. Might as well get the ratcheting lock type if you plan to keep/use the drill for a while. If not there are cheaper options like non-ratcheting lock. There was another brand that was a bit cheaper than Rohm that had a red band on the sleeve, I forget the brand but now there are lots of generic no name brands selling chucks that look similar. Jacobs also make replacements. My old Dewalt XRP nicad came with a Jacobs on it, never had a problem with it unlike my Milwaukee. But ever since Jacobs manufacturing was moved overseas I no longer recommend their stuff anymore. Doesn't mean a Jacobs won't be decent though.

The MW I have was known to have chuck problems & unfortunately mine did also. I cheaped out & just went with a new MW chuck (no idea who makes it). Was a great upgrade & hasn't gave me a problem yet but if I had to do it over I would just get a Rohm.

Oh BTW, check the spindle thread before ordering the chuck. They're usually 1/2"-20 but some newer drills are 9/16" now, my MW was 9/16" also.

When I replaced mine:
https://www.hobby-machinist.com/threads/my-misc-quickie-projects.76777/page-5#post-746568
I broke two more T20 bits trying to get that darn screw out. Yes I tried left, broke, then right-again, broke.
Shoot. Can't heat it up without melting the darn thing.

Maybe I have to get off my wallet or wait until Xmas.
My boys always ask what they can get me :)
 
Had similar problem with my drill chuck replacement. Have you tried Kroil or acetone & ATF? Few drops in the chuck to try to get it to seep into the threads. Let it sit a day and try again. If it won't move, another couple of drops and wait. My chuck was stuck but eventually got it off. Replaced it with a Rohm, as @darkzero recommended. It's not a new drill, but I saved it from the scrap heap.
 
@Janderso : Good man!
I am thinking you have a hankering to start over the Milwaukee way, but it conflicts with the ethic about wastefulness (it's a perfectly good thing were it not for the damn chuck)! Possibly you may be invested in other De Walt stuff that uses the same battery?

For you, I'm betting that a Christmas present Milwaukee 3-set would take you to the point nobody gets left out of the will! :)
 
I bought a Milwaukee 3Piece set for the house, im about to throw out my rigid drill due to the playskool chuck.
the Milwaukee drill chuck is exponentially better
 
I broke two more T20 bits trying to get that darn screw out. Yes I tried left, broke, then right-again, broke.
Shoot. Can't heat it up without melting the darn thing.

Maybe I have to get off my wallet or wait until Xmas.
My boys always ask what they can get me :)
Yeah those screws are on/can get pretty tight. You could try reaching in there with a soldering iron to try heating it up..... if you have something like 40W or higher, a 15W iron for PCB work might not be hot enough. Might not get good good heat transfer but might be able to heat it up just enough.

Yup, holidays are coming up, good sales around Thanksgiving as you know. A Rohm was $50 pre-pandemic so I assume it may cost more now. If it does then I hate to say it but a new one is probably the better option especially if that drill is kind of old. I hate to to get rid of working tools/stuff in this throw away world we live in now but if it's more cost effective then I'll go with it.

If you decide to get a new one, who knows maybe in the future you may come across a good chuck or use that drill for parts or a project. I still have my old Dewalt nicad, I bought an adapter for it to use MW M18 batteries but I still don't use it. I planned on making a tool post mounted drill with it for radial drilling on the lathe but that will probably never happen. :)
 
I don't regret repairing my drill. Used it yesterday. Still works fine.

However, I have reached my limit on repairs. If something else requires service on my drill and it is more than $10, I'll be looking for a spanking new one. I've eked this one out for well over 15 years, maybe 20.
 
I have this box full of various brands cordless drills. Some were crap to begin with. Then there was the Ryobi. Much abused, but it did lots of heavy work, and is still a runner, except for the NiCad(s), which is why it is in the box. At least one in there from the DIY store was also a Ryobi, but disguised branded "PowerPro" or something. It had to be because the charger part was identical to the Ryobi, only made 180° turned facing the other way. I could still put them into the Ryobi charger.

Now into the world of Lithium-Ion batteries, the Makita is going great guns, and I can get compatible batteries at a sane price. The drills in the box have not been useful for so long now, yet there is still this distaste to be throwing the whole lot into the trash!

The Milwaukee 3-Pack looks so tempting, but it would have to come as a present. I got locked into Makita, and I don't really want to start over on (yet another) battery technology with bespoke charger.
 
Hey all.
Boy did I luck out. The Torx T20 broke off at the chuck retaining screw.
I was able to get it out with a magnet, whew!!

Is this left hand thread?
Can you suggest a good replacement chuck? This one won’t hold a darn thing. The drill is in great shape.
Hopefully a good replacement isn’t more than a Milwaukee replacement drill.

Thanks for your help.

From the factory those things are set up right tight, and for obvious reason. Indeed, the "inside" screw is going to be a left hand thread, and the chuck it's self is going to be a right hand thread. Removing either can be brutal. About 4000 Youtube videos might build your confidence a bit.....

Don't go spraying oil... The inside screw, clean metal to clean metal, has formed a seal. Oil won't get under it until AFTER you find a way to loosen it. It's not really every day, but I've worn out my share of drill chucks... The "original" way since threaded chucks were a thing, is clamping a3/8 allen key in the chuck, and beating the (tar) out of it with a hammer to get it to turn (Seriously, I wasn't joking, it takes 4000 Youtube videos to build up that kind of confidence). I've evolved that into using a 3/8 impact gun, clamping a 3/8 square drive allen key in the chuck. That is a quick speedy, not huge torque impact gun. Couple hunnert pounds rated maybe. NOT the big ugga dugga.....

First step for a reversable drill with the locking screw inside, put the allen key in the in the dill chuck and TIGHTEN it with a good hammer thwack, or a couple of burps on the impact gun. This ensures it's not "locked" against the locking screw.

Second step, take your torx socket that you're using to remove the locking screw, put it in the screw, and close the existing chuck until it's supporting but NOT CLAMPING the socket. Just supporting it, minimal play. Now, hold the drill by the chuck, over the work bench, but above it, so you're ONLY supporting the drill with your hand, and only by the chuck, Then, a couple of good sharp hammer thwacks on top of the driver. You're using the driver like a nail set to drive that screw home....

Third step... Go back to the removing of the locking screw as you normally would. Start gently and escalate slowly. If it gets to where it's just not gonna go, no way, no how... Use that torx head on the screw as a pilot, and drill the head off.

Fourth step, go back to what I said before, and allen socket and a small impact wrench, or the allen key and the BFH to unscrew the chuck.

Fifth step, if there's a drilled off stump of locking screw in there, because you excercised restraint and drilled it before it broke..... There's a little tiny stump sticking up. If it's not locktited, it's unloaded, it'll come out by hand. (They always loctite 'em...). Or You can safely warm the "spindle" enough to soften the loctite that's got it stuck in there, and pliers will unscrew it. It is a left hand thread.

As for the new chuck that you're gonna get- I'm not going to be a huge help here, except to temper your expectations. The old drill chucks of days gone by that would clamp so tight they'd put their own three flats on a round drill.... Those days are gone. Materials and batch production processes have made drills harder (not as hard as the business end, but harder), and the drill motors themselves, they have so much more torque than the same thing from years gone by... It's an apples to oranges comparison to the drills that were equipped with the chucks we all remember, that were faultless at the time. That said, there are some better and some worse. OK, yeah... The big old all metal drills that weighed ninety pounds, had no torque, but thirty pounds of motor and gear reduction all in rapid motion... They won't hold a modern drill bit either. You'll never wear the (keyed) chuck out, but it won't hold the bit. Find a drill bit as old as the drill, and you're back in business (until you break your arm), but they don't like modern bits either.

So... Basically, your drill chuck is going to be fairly flat backed, although there's a very good "counterbore" before the threads start, which makes it kinda particular, but pretty well out there in all the usual places. Grainger, Mcmaster, MSC, Shars, etc. The bad thing is this. If you want a GOOD drill chuck... It's out of your price limit


Everybody has their own accounting system, I'd have a hard time spending past half of that number for a "decent" chuck... Personally, I'd be inclined to look into an old timey keyed chuck. (And did on one of my drills of another brand). They're not keyless, and the "keeping track of the key" habit takes a couple of searches around the shop to become ingrained into muscle memory again, but you won't be bracing the drill between your legs and yarning on the keyless chuck with channel locks any more... Fair swap for me. Probably not for everybody, but at least worth "considering" in the mix, given what's out there.
 
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