Bench type mill rigidity

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Hello, I have recently obtained a bench type column/dovetail mill. While checking out tram/alignment etc, I was surprised to find out how 'springy' the column is. With an indicator in the spindle that is touching the table (measuring in Z direction), With one finger worth of push on the very top of the column (not pushing on the head) I can get the indicator to move .001". Is this normal for these machines ? Its a larger machine, 833, about 750 Lbs .
 
Hello, I have recently obtained a bench type column/dovetail mill. While checking out tram/alignment etc, I was surprised to find out how 'springy' the column is. With an indicator in the spindle that is touching the table (measuring in Z direction), With one finger worth of push on the very top of the column (not pushing on the head) I can get the indicator to move .001". Is this normal for these machines ? Its a larger machine, 833, about 750 Lbs .
I would think that the column is not the problem. I feel it might be at where the column is mounted to the flange that holds it to the base. .001 whiteout a load makes you wonder how much under a load, but then again what's your actual intentions for the mill.
 
You want to replace the bolts at the base of the column with stronger ones- grade 8 at least, and make sure the surfaces are clean and flat
A slight bit of flex is unavoidable with a machine like this just by design, but you should be able to reduce it- there may be burrs/debris that are
holding the surfaces apart
 
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Welcome H-M.

Was the Z-axis locked, when you took your measurement?

On my bench mill, I've found two things that can effect my Z axis height readings...
1) If my Z axis gibb is adjusted too loosely.
2) My Z axis is not locked.
 
I just replaced my lead screw drive head lift on the top of my RF30 KO mill with a worm drive on the side of the mill. This clears the top of my column and I plan to put about 60 lbs of weight up there to dampen vibrations. I just finished the worm drive yesterday (member's projects) so I haven't put the weight on the column yet. I'll post when I get it done.
 
I just replaced my lead screw drive head lift on the top of my RF30 KO mill with a worm drive on the side of the mill. This clears the top of my column and I plan to put about 60 lbs of weight up there to dampen vibrations. I just finished the worm drive yesterday (member's projects) so I haven't put the weight on the column yet. I'll post when I get it done.
Post what you've done. Sounds good.
 
What brand and model benchtop mill do you have?
 
Post what you've done. Sounds good.
The gearbox is already posted in members projects and I'll post the results of the column weight in the next few days. I'm awaiting shoulder replacement surgery so I can't put the weight up there myself. I'll probably start with an 8x8x16 cement block.
 
What brand and model benchtop mill do you have?
Its a PM-833 . This is my first 'hobby' mill and is the biggest one i could get in to my tiny workshop. My professional experience is with full size knee mills, But no way could I have got one of those in the room.
I just wonder if thats how it is with these types of mills. I can imagine lots of z movement with actual cutting forces in play (especially drilling)
 
Its a PM-833 . This is my first 'hobby' mill and is the biggest one i could get in to my tiny workshop. My professional experience is with full size knee mills, But no way could I have got one of those in the room.
I just wonder if thats how it is with these types of mills. I can imagine lots of z movement with actual cutting forces in play (especially drilling)
Hi, I’m on par with changing the bolts to grade 8 and making sure those mating surfaces are clean and flat as suggested above. I had to do just that to mine to get my tram correct
 
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