Advice on small bench grinder please

praxim

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I have been planning ("agonising" as someone said in another thread :)) ) exactly what I need for my circumstances, and one of those things appears to be a small bench grinder for sharpening or making HSS tools. Now, I already have an angle grinder and a Dremel which handle (freehanding) gardening tools and blades, and kitchen knives are carefully sharpened on waterstones, but lathe tools (on my reading) need a fixed grinder with a proper rest to set the necessary angles. Other than that I have never felt the need for one.

Do you agree I need a bench grinder, or are there setups I could use by combining what I already have?

Prefacing the next part, it is common to see advice along the lines "buy the biggest you can afford, you will need it" but I won't, for several reasons. Firstly, I have yet to imagine a necessary or desirable piece of work I will be doing where the part will not rest in the palm of my hand, where the entire assembly could most probably be picked up with one hand. My expected working envelope is small. Secondly, in contrast to the massive shops I see pictured around the place, basically everything has to sit on an ordinary desk-sized bench, or be able to be lifted on and off it when needed. This is very much tabletop machining and one table at that. A mill at around 17 Kg will be the only more or less permanent fixture, with everything else lighter than that. Thirdly, money is not the key issue, appropriate-to-needs tools are.

Here are three grinders I have looked at, with my problem explained.

First, we have a chinese Sonic such as this "150" W or this "300" W (1/5 & 2/5 HP)
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A 75 mm (3") wheel seems fine, either seems to have the necessary power, but I am rejecting both because they lack protective plexiglass covers for the work area, do not have adjustable rests, and have a rest on only one side anyway. Safety and utility seem the issues here.

Second, there is the Proxxon SP/E which you can read about here.
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The 50 mm (2") wheels seem small but adequate for grinding 1/4" tool bits but at 100W (~1/8 HP) is it underpowered for that job? I am recollecting that the Dremel is more powerful than that, and uses smaller grinding stones. In other respects it has the right adjustments and safety shields and its smallness is very appealing.

Thirdly there is a standard Bosch 150 mm (6") 350 W (~1/2 HP) grinder which has and does everything, is an acceptable weight at 10 Kg but rather large (!) at 340 mm (13.5") wide. They also have a 200 mm grinder of course but that would be gross overkill.
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It is not as if I currently need a bench grinder for any purpose but these tools. I guess it may find other uses. Still, if the Proxxon is judged adequate for the purpose I would probably get that, even though it is also the most expensive.

What do you think of the options please?

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The problem with the smaller ones is going to be finding the proper wheels for high speed steel and thay won't have the torque for shaping the bits. But would proble be ok for sharpening them. The 6" grinder will have an unlimited type of wheels for your needs. And is alot more versital. Once you have one you will find it gets alot more use than you think.
 
You may want to have a look at http://www.hobby-machinist.com/show...ement-grinding-wheels-over-stock-grey-wheels?

I'd go 8" for HSS grinding. Wheels cost about the same as 6", and there are a lot more choices in hardness, grit and material. Mine is on a stand but you can always mount it on a board for clamping to the workbench.

6" will do if you won't be doing much tool grinding but the wheels don't last nearly as long.

really I don't think you will find all that much actual size difference between them.

Steve
 
You can't go wrong with your standard Bench Grinder in 6" or 8". Bosch is a bit pricier than your standard chinese made grinder but I'm sure it's better made. I've never bought a Bosch tool i didn't like, Bosch makes good stuff.
 
is dewalt available to you down under? i have both 6" and 8" current models and they are quiet and smooth right out of the box. just my 2 cents. . .
 
Another vote for choosing a 6" (or 8") I have one of those in the first pic and it is sorely lacking in power and then there is the very limited choice of stones.

There must be a gazillion stones, polishers, wire wheels, etc out there for a bench top grinder - most all of which, at one time or another you will find a use for.

IMHO, a bench grinder has to rank as one of the top most useful tools in a home shop (I have 3 :)))
 
Thank you for all of those comments, people.

After writing the OP, I sensed that my own words were pushing me in the direction you have all confirmed, that the Bosch is simply more flexible, more suitable for actual grinding rather than sharpening, and, well, it would in fact fit.

DeWalt are sold here so I will look into them thanks. I have a few Bosch power tools and have been much happier with them than previous Ryobi and similar gear. I have never owned DeWalt. If it is comparable with the Bosch 'blue tools' series, trade quality, then I will certainly do the comparisons.

Thanks again for your comments. Any dissenting voices, feel free to add your words. :)
 
The new Dewalt are quite prone to very out of true stock wheels. I would avoid them or plan on replacing the wheels or fiddling with them for awhile. I have the 8" model and it still wobbles more than I care for but less than I care to fix just now (the way it came it would make a great agitator or shaker). Go Bosch I say.
 
Go with The 6. I am limited on space also, so I simply bolt the grinder to a piece of wood that I can then clamp to the table, use as needed then unclamp and store out of the way. With space at a premium, and already having several stand alone machines, this is a great set up for a machine that will not be in constant use.
Nomad
 
+1 for the 6" or better yet 8" grinder. I too thought that smaller/cheaper grinder would be better, but found out once I came to look for replacement wheels that anything other than 8" replacement wheels starts to be tricky to find (6" are still available from different mfg. but any of the smaller ones would be harder to find in different grits/hardness). the overall bench space difference between all those models is rather marginal
 
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