.30-78 Ss

drhall762

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When I purchase a book, especially a reference book, I want it to be new or at least nearly new. When I saw Amazon had Wildcat Cartridges Vols I & II and they were new, I bought them. Perusing Volume II I ran across the .30-78 Single Shot cartridge. That is the basis of this rifle.

Now that I had a cartridge I needed to build a rifle. I collect orphaned gun parts. Many of these actions were once very collectible rifles but ran into Bubba and the rest is history. I looked through the pile of actions on hand and pulled out a French Gras 1874 M80. This one was very interesting in that it was chambered in 7x57 Mauser and therefore had a .473 breech face.

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I went through my stash of barrels and pulled out a Palma taper barrel. I have a mentor in the long range game that gives me his old barrels when the throats are shot out. This one was a Lilja 3 groove. I decided it would make a good .30-78 SS. The first step was to cut out the chamber. Then I chucked it in an old Clausing lathe to cut the shoulder.

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I dialed the bore in to about ± .0005. In order to prevent wobble of the barrel in the spindle bore I cut a brass ring to support it.

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The Gras is left hand 26mm diameter and about 14 TPI. Actually 14 TPI works great as I was too lazy to switch my threading gears over to metric.

I got the threads cut.
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All that was left at this point was to mount the action.
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I was going to put this in an un-inletted laminate stock but decided I wanted to see how well it shot before doing all that work. Comparing the action to some inletted stocks I had on hand, I found that a Remington 700 SA would do fine. I picked up a synthetic for $35.00. I'll keep you posted as this progresses.
 
is this a straight walled case or did you just happen to have a reamer stashed?
 
No to both. Will try to post cartridge specs tomorrow. PTG has the reamer.
 
Cool! I "jumped the gun" I guess after looking at your last photo of the action in the lathe. Will this require an extractor cut? I'm not familiar with this action at all.
 
The Gras is a French rifle from 1874 era. 11mm x??? It ended up getting kicked around in the world for quite a while after, all the way into the 1940s and even Viet Nam. They got re-barreled to various cartridges and were used again by the French in WWI in 8mm Lebel, the Russians at some time in some chambering, the Greeks in 1941 and somewhere in Africa that I can't remember in 7x57 Mauser. That's what this one was or at least the 5" barrel stub I removed was. As I said, it was nothing but an action when I got it.

As far as the extractor cut, yes, it will get one at the 12 o'clock position after I chamber it and make sure I have it indexed to the receiver so I can take it apart, mill the extractor cut and screw it back in to the same point. Playing with the stock right now and trying to determine what I am going to do with/for the trigger.

For the stock it is mostly cutting out the synthetic that doesn't belong and then I will fill the spaces with Devcon. After I shoot it a bit I have a gentleman with a stock duplicator that will cut one for me out of laminate.

Trigger wise I am going to try and modify the original kind of like the old Mauser and Springfield triggers were done after WWII for sporters. The set up on the Gras is more like a Mosin-Nagant though and I have toyed with the idea of trying to adapt a Timney trigger for the MN to this Gras. We shall see.

As far as cases go, I plan to use .30 WCF brass with the rim turned down for the .473 bolt face. I could open the bolt face but I don't expect to need more than 50 cases for a lifetime so it is almost as easy to chuck the brass and turn it down. No one will ever confuse it with .30 WCF that way. Also, I think this will be a cast bullet/paper patch gun just to round out the fun.

Hope this fills in a few holes. Will do my best to keep at it so that it gets at least to the accuracy test phase by summer.
 
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