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What Do You Use To Draw/design Projects?

Discussion in 'DRAWING, LAYOUT & CAD' started by Nels, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. bpudney

    bpudney Australia Iron Registered Member

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    Hi Bob, I' Tea Tree Gully way.
    I tried Fusion 360 after reading some really good reviews. Sadly I was unable to download it, apparently not unusual.
    Sometimes simple is best....why I hang on to TurboCAD, it's not the best, but it is easy after 20 years!!
    cheers
    Bill
     
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    Unigraphics NX or Solidworks
     
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    AutoCAD 2015 for both 3D and 2D layout
     
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    I always use a paper and pencil first. Just so I don't forget a concept idea. Then Bobcad 20 for all my .dxf drawings. For those that never may have heard about this "old news"
    I think it is Bobcad 13 that we started with years ago (only because it was cheap) but Bobcad 13 didn't need a license for multiple users. It only runs on 32bit Oper sys. Funny also but it runs on my Windows 7
    32 bit. I use ver. 20 for lathe and mill work. That's my starting point for my little 3 axis router too.
    oh and thanks to the admin for my approval.
     
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    kd4gij United States Active User Active Member

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    I use Bic Mechanical Pencils for all my designs.:rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks, I've never used anay form of CAD before, and don't even know where to start. I'm looking for something that is low cost Hobby use only and most important easy to learn for an absolute beginner.
     
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    Good old bic. Actually any brand will do as long as it works, some of the cheapies are useless.
     
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    Take a look at Emachineshop. It's free and easy to learn.

    Tom S.
     
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    I use autocad 13 , the last up grade I bought before they priced me out of the market
     
  10. bobshobby

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    Thanks Tom, yes I've heard that it's easy to use and cheap, as in free. However I've also heard that it does not produce a dimensioned drawing you can work from..
     
  11. bobshobby

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    G'day bill, I've managed to download it and had a look at it but have no idea where to start. I've never used any sort of cad cam software before, I can draw with a pencil and rule etc. but I'm complete newbie, it just scares me looking at it, and every time I try something it does weird things that I don't understand, It's probably quite normal but i'm lost.
     
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    Emachineshop does have a dimensioning feature. It's not quite the same as a righteous drawing but it is functional.

    Tom S.
     
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    Thanks Tom,

    I've downloaded it and will give it a go, mostly I just make stuff from the designs in my head, but sometimes when trying to develop a design it gets a bit complicated, so a CAD program that I can use will be a help..

    Cheers,

    Bob.
     
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    I use Fusion360. Free for hobbyist and super easy to learn.
     
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    Thanks Greebles, I've downloaded it but cant figure out where to start, are there any tutorials available, I'm a complete novice when it comes to CAD.
     
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    you tube has lots of tutorials on 360, likewise on Fusion 360 site. On your screen when you log into Fusion and it shows a worksheet, the ? mark on top right corner of screen gets you to help or tutorial

    cheers
    michael
     
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    Thanks, I have had a look and found it thanks again, All I have to do now is find the time to start using it.

    Cheers,

    Bob.
     
  18. DaveSohlstrom

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    Bob

    All good CAD programs both 2D and 3D have a fairly steep learning curve. What you want to make has a lot to do with what program to use. If you want to design a complete model IC or steam engine from the ground up then 3D is the way to go because you can design your parts and then assemble them in the CAD program to check for fit and operation.
    If you have a CNC mill then again 3D CAD is the way to go. Fusion 360 is a strong 3D CAD program and there is a ton of you tube help available. It has a strong CAM program built in and you know because you have down loaded it and you are giving it a go that you can get both for free.
    If you need just simple 2D drawings that you can take out to the shop and make parts on you manual machines the DraftSight is a good free 2D CAD program.
    The thing with CAD and CAM is take it in little bites. Don't start out trying to design a complete engine. Just design small parts that use the various task of the CAD program. Watch tons of you tube about the program you want to use and keep at it. Soon you will be to a point that you can design the IC engine and go out to the shop and build it.
    I've been designing all kinds of stuff in CAD for over 20 yours and I still learn thing on a regular basis.

    Hope this helps

    Dave
     
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    Well it has finally arrived. 2 1/2 months ago I ordered a new lathe. A Liang Dei LD 1216GH, Picked it up yesterday (Fri) morning and installed it in my garage. I'm now a very happy chappy. I've still got a bit of work cleaning it up, all the grease they put on before shipping. The lathe comes from Taiwan, and is very well spec'd, I hope it lives up to the spec's, if it does it will be a beauty, Gave it a short test run nice and quiet, all the gears change smoothly and easily.
     
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    Did your lathe come with a 4 jaw chuck and a face plate. If now as soon as the budget will let you you will want to get at least a 4 jaw chuck.

    Dave
     
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    Are you going to draw it up on cad now?
     
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    Yes 6" 3 jaw, 8" 4 jaw, fixed and travelling steady, face plate, with driving dogs. Live and dead centers, 3-5 Mt sleeve, 13 mm drill chuck Quick change toolpost And I already have a small dividing table. The first project is to make a vertical spindle milling attachment, as I don't have room for a milling machine. I also have a few HSS tool bits from when I was an apprentice back in the 60's, but I want to get some new ones with carbide inserts.
     
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    Not yet, I still haven't learned how to use the program, i'm hoping I can find a local trade school that will run a course in the new year.
     
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    Bob,

    I started a new thread under the "Beginners" forum for your lathe for others to see. You kind of got off subject posting in this section of the forum. I'm just trying to help you out here, don't hold it against me. Ken
     
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    Thanks Ken, I suspected it wasn't the right place for it, But I didn't know how to start a new thread, or where to put it, and how. I'm fairly new here and still stumbling along, glad you were able to fix it.
     
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    For simple things a pencil and pad work just fine. For complex or assemblies I use MasterCam or Cadkey. I learned on Cadkey back when it was introduced. I have tried many others but found MasterCam to be easier for me because it was a lot like using Cadkey but better for 3D. I know there are a lot of free ones out there but most are limited as to what you can do. They are fine for the hobbyist though. I am just used to what I have been using through the years.
     
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    AutoCad LT 95 Student Version. One old computer in the shop and one in the house. Obsolete fits my budget fine. I'm so old that I think in ortho.
     
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    Solidworks
     
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    Initially a real big drafting table but in later years I use Alibre design expert 2012. Bought it to do contract design work in the oilfield. First project paid for it all and then some.
     
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    I'm old school. I have a drafting table and a drafting arm machine. I usually start with freehand pencil sketches on a quadrille spiral pad. I then take it to Adobe Illustrator to work out the exact dimensions and piece part drawings. If I need an isometric I take it to the drafting table. Generally, isometrics are only needed to demonstrate the design to clients.

    But my main tool is a wooden pencil wielded freehand on a drawing pad.

    "A pen is just a tube full of ink. A pencil is full of ideas." — Chuck Jones.
     

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