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Surface plate support quick question

Discussion in 'METROLOGY - MEASURE, SETUP & FIT' started by expressline99, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. expressline99

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    OK since this blends with the other thread a bit. Currently waiting on my level to arrive. Today I picked up all of the 2" square tubing .120 and made all my cuts for my stand. I'll be welding that up this week hopefully.
     
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    Ack! I forgot to get weldable nuts. Zinc no bueno. :( And I know better. oh well. Add another day to making the stand.

    Paul
     
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    It occurred to me a couple of days ago that this stand probably would hold over 1000 pounds without any problems. I think I may have fallen past the overkill line again.
     
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    Overkill for a surface plate stand is one of those things that's very hard to do. The stiffer and bigger it is, the less twist and other variations you will get. Not overkill. Just 'extra sturdy'. Look t the better commercial ones. They hold a 500lb surface plate using 2X2X3/16" tubing. With extra bracing!
     
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    I am getting close... I did a lot of welding today. Let me tell you what I'm a great grinder. Hopefully get this thing painted this weekend. Ever closer.
     
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    Long thread with no pics?
     
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    I promise to get some listed this weekend. Gotta pretty up the last welds. Then some pictures before painting.
     
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    the welds will do! Very nice work!
     
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    Nice job Paul!

    Welds are better than any I can do!

    How much would charge to make one for my rock?
     
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    Thanks. I uhhmm If you bring the stuff over we can just make it. But plan on two weeks of evenings. LOL!

    Here are some pictures with it painted.


    Paul
     
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    Two coats of primer, two coats of dark machine grey, and then two coats of crystal clear enamel.
     
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    Hi Paul,
    looking great man!
    looks like you have a shop gnome too!

    my shop gnome puts stuff away for me.
    as cute and respectable as it is, the problem is that i'm the only one who know where stuff is supposed to go ! :grin big:

    i look forward to seeing the plate!
     
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    Thanks Mike! I was wondering what it was called. Seems my shop gnome likes to say "NO!" a lot. She's 4 and in the last month has gone to an enormous amount of 'why are you doing that?" Or "What are you doing?" questions which is good. She was on a milk crate a couple of days ago with her P.P.E. watching me drill holes on the drill press. Getting her to wear glasses is easier than getting her to wear shoes!

    The plate might get put in it's resting place this week. I visited it in the shop today. It looks lonely.
     
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    she's cute as a button! the questions from her get tougher from here!

    my son(6yo) loves to put on the PPE stuff- he says he's like Bob the Builder!

    can't wait to see the plate!!!
     
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    Glad to see your progress! You guys remind me of the days that my little ones took to trying to do their own projects with my chisels and hammers! Heart racing, they never did too much damage to the shop or kids.
     
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    OK so here's how it went down! My wife through a fit over me wanting to spend another 200$(or more as I wanted to buy a lifting table also) to unload my "secrete" surface plate I had some how acquired... So what I ended up doing was buying (8) 2x4's to build a ramp from the truck to the plate. I put the plate on an extra pallet I had at the warehouse and loaded it in the truck. This gave it enough height to be above the grade of the stand. I only used (4) of the 2x4s... some 3" and 2-1/2" screws...and some rope a bike hanger and a single pulley. (I want to warn you this particular pulley almost killed me in 2010 when I pulled a water heater down from a loft by myself...and it was full of rust...it weighed more than I did and I got to fly through the air like that story you've read on the internet about the bricks falling..the rope...yadada. Anyway, it's on it's stand and I've tried to describe what I did on each photo in the title. Here it is. 20 more photos for your viewing pleasure.

    Paul
     
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    Yay, good job! I almost want to see that photo sequence set to music....
    Seriously, glad you finally got it done. :encourage:

    -frank
     
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    How about this...I know it fits me so well.
    Paul
     
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    WreckWreck was joking that he didn't understand your post -- it sounded like something from a Hungarian phrase book.

    This should clarify:
     
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    LMAO I had to go back to see if I was offended. That's great.
    Paul
     
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    Wreck's comment cracked me up because I caught the reference, but he was replying to ezduzit not Tony.

    Anyway now that I've explained someone else's joke and confused everyone by getting the quoting and attribution wrong, nice job on the plate stand!

    I really need to get a decent plate and I'll definitely be building something similar.
     
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    I was going to put up the cut list and supplies list here later this week. Will make it super simple for anyone wanting to do the same thing.

    Paul
     
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    Paul,

    It would be much easier if you made the stands for us.:D:)

    Ken
     
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    I use a 96" X 48" X 24" granite surface plate at work. have no idea how it is supported, it seems to work well.
    [​IMG]
     
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    I think your work might be a little more serious than my wildest ideas are. That rocks gotta be 10,000 pounds...

    Paul
     
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    The 2nd one would probably be faster to make and prettier. But I have to get my mill head mounted...and move on to documenting the table rebuild...and handle the lathe remounting on legs and get a new pan made. Oh and help my wife for the next 6 months while she recovers. :) Oh and handle the kids...oh yeah and run my business. If I keep listing these things I might have to do some of them! :) :D

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    That rock which 'Wreck Wreck' uses, at 170lbs/ft3 is a 'mere' 5,440 lbs. I once had offered a 'free' surface plate from Kentucky - but I had to pay shipping to Alberta, and it weighed 8,000 lbs! (for some reason I passed it up)
     
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    Looked at the tag today, 6400+ Lbs.

    We rarely have parts that large but it certainly is handy when we do the occasional wiper knife for a plastic sheet manufacturer, they want them straight.
     
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    I should have mentioned this earlier, but you might have been better off using "elevator bolts" both for the feet and the mounting points instead of plain hex cap screws.


    Oh, and by the way, I am half blood Hungarian and there is at least one Hungarian member here. Please be mindful of the different cultures and try not to post anything offensive.
     

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