• This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn more.
  • PLEASE: Read the FORUM RULES BEFORE registering!

4

Searching for a small quiet metal saw

3
Like what you see?
Click here to donate to this forum and upgrade your account!
10

CarlosA

H-M Supporter - Premium Member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
100
Likes
44
#1
Anyone have any experiences or suggestions? I currently have a 4x6 bandsaw inside my (apartment) spare room machine shop - i`m looking to reclaim the floor space and get something that would be better suited to the top of a bench for making cuts. I primarily use it for cut off purposes - like a 2" round aluminum rod for turning, etc. Whatever I find needs to be bench size and as quiet as the 4x6 - preferably even quieter with less vibration to please the neighbors. Otherwise maybe I can kick this thing out on the porch and make that work somehow, I just don`t really want it to rust away.

I also have a hand-i-hack saw in storage that didn`t really solve the problem.

I almost think a small vertical metal cutting bandsaw might do the job, but not sure about cutting off larger diameters?

Please tell me what has worked for you, or of anything you might have seen that was impressive. I don`t have much of a budget for this - sky is the limit to solve this annoying problem.
 

darkzero

Global Moderator
Staff member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
2,993
Likes
1,713
#2
There's really not very many choices for smaller than a 4x6 unless you go vertical. Well a chop saw is smaller but that won't work in your case, way too loud & they're messy.

There are benchtop horizontal bandsaws but they're not that much smaller than a 4x6, maybe a bit shorter in length. Example below. An old power hacksaw can be found with a small footprint also. But there not easy to find depending on where you live and are even slower than bandsaws.

If it were me, I'd stick with a horizontal bandsaw for cutting. The advantage is you can leave it to make a big cut where as a vertical bandsaw you will have to sit there & continue feeding the stock yourself.

You can unbolt the stand on a 4x6 & put the saw on top of a bench. My suggestion is if that would work for you I would do that. Will save you money & the stands on most 4x6 saws are what vibrates & makes noise.

2LKT8_AS01.jpg
 

CarlosA

H-M Supporter - Premium Member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
100
Likes
44
#4
You can unbolt the stand on a 4x6 & put the saw on top of a bench. My suggestion is if that would work for you I would do that. Will save you money & the stands on most 4x6 saws are what vibrates & makes noise.
I considered this - if I relocate the motor to be above the gear box, and use a DC motor with variable speed, it would really work well in this configuration - the back side of the motor hanging off prevents it from working in my space as is.
 

Ken from ontario

Active Member
Active Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2016
Messages
517
Likes
377
#5
All the smaller saws that run on universal motors are going to be noisy, universal motors are notorious for their excessive noise, a quiet saw would most likely have an induction motor.
 

darkzero

Global Moderator
Staff member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
2,993
Likes
1,713
#6
I considered this - if I relocate the motor to be above the gear box, and use a DC motor with variable speed, it would really work well in this configuration - the back side of the motor hanging off prevents it from working in my space as is.
True that, I forgot about that. I had a 4x6 too, then again my 7x12 is the same way. Maybe another option is to build a stand with wheels? That way to can roll it out when you need to use it. If you have the flimsy sheet metal stand, putting castors on that is not a very good idea. I have limited space in my garage, that's what I do with my 7x12.

Otherwise one of those benchtop models sounds good, no motor hanging off the back.
 

brino

Active User
H-M Supporter - Sustaining Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2014
Messages
2,844
Likes
2,618

darkzero

Global Moderator
Staff member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
2,993
Likes
1,713
#8
Another option is to go with a Portaband & the Swag Offroad vertical table mount (or make your own). My lil brother just got one of these setups. Footprint is very small. You can use the Milwaukee, Dewalt, or HF saws. You'll loose the ability to auto feed like with a horizontal saw but at least you can unbolt it & go handheld.

Trick Tools makes a horizontal stand for the portable bandsaws but they're not cheap!

I believe most if not all of those small table top vertical bandsaws are meant for wood, they spin too fast for metal. Not sure if you can mod them to go slower. The portable bandsaws have variable speed & good thing is you can buy replacement blades at most any hardware store.

40.jpg

milwaukee_cordless_bandsaw_99_milwaukee_cordless_bandsaw__ez_cut_jig_for.jpg

EDIT: brino beat me to it. :)
 
Last edited:

CarlosA

H-M Supporter - Premium Member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
100
Likes
44
#9
Another option is to go with a Portaband & the Swag Offroad vertical table mount (or make your own). My lil brother just got one of these setups. Footprint is very small. You can use the Milwaukee, Dewalt, or HF saws. You'll loose the ability to auto feed like with a horizontal saw but at least you can unbolt it & go handheld.

Trick Tools makes a horizontal stand for the portable bandsaws but they're not cheap!

I believe most if not all of those small table top vertical bandsaws are meant for wood, they spin too fast for metal. Not sure if you can mod them to go slower. The portable bandsaws have variable speed & good thing is you can buy replacement blades at most any hardware store.

View attachment 241228

View attachment 241229

EDIT: brino beat me to it. :)
How noisy are these? The older ones I've used have been screaming noisy like a circular saw.
 

darkzero

Global Moderator
Staff member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
2,993
Likes
1,713
#10
How noisy are these? The older ones I've used have been screaming noisy like a circular saw.
I'm not sure, I've never used a newer one before. Only time I ever used one was a old one too, like when they came in metal cases. But on that one I remember it rattling more than anything else.

Probably not a good representation but there are lots of videos of them on YT. I'll ask my lil brother how loud his Dewalt is.
 

Ken from ontario

Active Member
Active Member
Joined
Dec 26, 2016
Messages
517
Likes
377
#11
How noisy are these? The older ones I've used have been screaming noisy like a circular saw.
I have a newer model Portaband, bought it a year ago, it's a joy to use. Portaband bandsaws are great bandsaws,powerful & versatile but they are noisy, I would describe the noise as 2 to 3 times noisier than a sewing machine.
 

uncle harry

Active User
Active Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Messages
651
Likes
353
#12
Anyone have any experiences or suggestions? I currently have a 4x6 bandsaw inside my (apartment) spare room machine shop - i`m looking to reclaim the floor space and get something that would be better suited to the top of a bench for making cuts. I primarily use it for cut off purposes - like a 2" round aluminum rod for turning, etc. Whatever I find needs to be bench size and as quiet as the 4x6 - preferably even quieter with less vibration to please the neighbors. Otherwise maybe I can kick this thing out on the porch and make that work somehow, I just don`t really want it to rust away.

I also have a hand-i-hack saw in storage that didn`t really solve the problem.

I almost think a small vertical metal cutting bandsaw might do the job, but not sure about cutting off larger diameters?

Please tell me what has worked for you, or of anything you might have seen that was impressive. I don`t have much of a budget for this - sky is the limit to solve this annoying problem.
I've seen a couple of you tube videos of adapting a portable band saw (Milwaukee or equivalent) to hold vertical on a bench. Check out OUTSIDE SCREWBALL for his example. As stated above, others have adapted the movable section of a 4 X 6 unit like yours to a vertical configuration.

Edit: Being curious I searched Outside Screwball's videos & came up with QUICKIE 3 Milwaukee Portable Bandsaw Stand posted 3 years ago. His holding fixture lets him set up the portable bandsaw in a vertical orientation very quickly and is quite simple.

Several other similar videos also surfaced which might be worth viewing consideration.
 
Last edited:

ELHEAD

Active User
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2014
Messages
194
Likes
138
#13
Handi-hack-saw? Never heard of that one. Not to seem foolish but is a hand powered hacksaw out of the question?
Dave
 

owl

Active Member
Active Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2012
Messages
66
Likes
48
#14
If you don't mind working off the floor, I took my 4x6 and threw away the stand. Mounted it on a couple of pieces of 4x4 wood, and slide it under the bench when not working with it.
 

Glenn Brooks

H-M Supporter - Premium Member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2014
Messages
651
Likes
664
#15
Littlemachineshop.com has a nice little benchtop bandsaw. Sort of a miniature of the 4 x 6 floor bandsaws. I bought one and have been generally happy with it. It's quite. And takes up very little desktop space. My main complaint is I always try to cut larger stock and end up ruining the blades. It has a two speed switch: low for cutting metal and high for softer materials, like plastic and wood.

IMG_1647.JPG

Cutting 2" aluminium, this little saw would be ideal.

Glenn
 

CarlosA

H-M Supporter - Premium Member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
100
Likes
44
#17
Littlemachineshop.com has a nice little benchtop bandsaw. Sort of a miniature of the 4 x 6 floor bandsaws. I bought one and have been generally happy with it. It's quite. And takes up very little desktop space. My main complaint is I always try to cut larger stock and end up ruining the blades. It has a two speed switch: low for cutting metal and high for softer materials, like plastic and wood.

View attachment 241244

Cutting 2" aluminium, this little saw would be ideal.

Glenn

I was interested in this one. All of the knockoffs ive seen on youtube have been very noisy.

The port-a-band method seems like a good one, maybe I can adapt a quiet variable speed DC motor to take the edge off of it.
 

CarlosA

H-M Supporter - Premium Member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
100
Likes
44
#18
Handi-hack-saw? Never heard of that one. Not to seem foolish but is a hand powered hacksaw out of the question?
Dave
Here is a google images photo of it. It is very quiet, but also kind of limited and much slower than the 4x6 bandsaw. Uses a standard power tool motor 1725 RPM, with a rubber bushing between the motor and the worm drive. I also do use the vertical mode of the 4x6 from time to time, and its easier to rig up a way to cut pieces much larger than it was designed. I have a big pile of thick aluminum plate (1/2" to 2") that I sometimes need to cut off a piece for whatever i`m doing.

 

ferlum

Active Member
Active Member
Joined
May 31, 2014
Messages
48
Likes
57
#22
I've had one of these for about three years. It has cut more aluminum and Delrin than I expected it to. Single speed and made for wood so it's not really an option if you're cutting anything hard.

If mine died tomorrow I'd feel like I got my money's worth out of it.

 

darkzero

Global Moderator
Staff member
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2012
Messages
2,993
Likes
1,713
#23
Bandsaw is about as quit as you're gonna get
Actually there are some quieter methods that I have seen. I'm sure it will take decades of training though to master them. Perhaps one might be able to convince ThisOldTony to teach them. :)

(Start at 2:53 if it doesn't start there for you)



(Start at 0:43 if it doesn't start there for you)



Looks like he did teach his son! (Start at 0:47 if it doesn't start there for you)

 

Franko

Active User
H-M Supporter-Premium Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2015
Messages
1,286
Likes
1,056
#24
Northern Tool makes a benchtop horizontal bandsaw similar to the Little Machine Shop model. I got one and I've been quite satisfied with it. I caught it on sale and with a coupon paid a bit less than $200.

49466_700x700.jpg
 

Bob La Londe

Active Member
Active Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2014
Messages
237
Likes
127
#25
All those bandsaw that are basically converted portabands appear to have universal brush motors which will certainly be louder than a bandsaw with an induction motor.
 
6
5 7