This thing is BIG, dwarfs my old 7x12. It arrived late today so all I was able to do is uncrate it and assemble the base. Since there's only 1 lame photo of this saw in grey on the internet here are some better photos. She weighs 485 lbs. There's a lot of thick iron on this saw, look at that rib of casting below the large JET logo, that's got to be an inch thick. Neat and tidy Gut shot of the hydraulics This vice is huge, must be 20" long. See that large handle, its huge and cast iron. The depth stop is just as beefy me likes!