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I Weep For The Future....

Discussion in 'SAFETY ISSUES & EQUIPMENT' started by great white, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. wrmiller

    wrmiller Chief Tinkerer H-M Supporter-Premium

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    Or choose not to. As for responsibility, whatever happened to being responsible for you own actions?
     
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    TOOLMASTER you don't want to know Active Member

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    this was 35 years ago...more than likely drugs were involved....right up there with the pot head that thought it was a good idea to stick his hand in sulfuric acid..then watches his hand melt..
     
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    Highsider United States Active Member Active Member

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    Listen or not, she (or longhaired he) wouldn't be in my shop to work without their hair being covered and no loose clothing etc.
    A student who doesn't listen belongs in English class Not a shop class where there is dangerous machinery.
     
  4. TOOLMASTER

    TOOLMASTER you don't want to know Active Member

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    WE had lots of people that didn't belong in the shop...some of them were the teachers
     
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    Highsider United States Active Member Active Member

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    I hear that.
     
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    Eddyde Active User H-M Supporter-Premium

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    Here is a guy that wasn't so lucky

     
  7. great white

    great white Active User Active Member

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    I've seen that one before. I think he got off rather lucky myself.

    What I can never understand is how long it takes for someone to actually think to turn the bloody lathe off and then how many people run in and out before someone thinks to release the work from the chuck and get the poor SOB outta there....
     
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    That might indicate a slow general decline in the state of generations. The ultimate result may be that, over time, the entire human community will devolve into lime jello. ;)
     
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    It has been postulated that the human species has already peaked and is on the downhill slide. Documented declines in overall IQs tends to support this. Is lime jello another word for primordial ooze? ;)
     
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    Yup, pretty much!:grin:
     
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    great white Active User Active Member

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    I blame a lot of it on our trend (as a society) from creating technology to being dependant on it.

    For example: younger kids might know more about using an Iphone/iPad than I do, but have very little awareness of what's in it or how it works. I may not be able to build one in the garage, but I sure as heck understand how it works and can identify a lot of the components when I (gasp) crack one open. Given the equipment, I could build one too...

    Easy access to the technology that does so much for us has led to a lack of basic skills (ie: math, spelling etc) and its drawing us down a path of "users" vice creators and thinkers. As a society that is...
     
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    They also have no situational awareness.
    ear plugs in, volume on full, eyes down at the screen.
     
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    They can be scary to watch (the younger generation), but somehow each successive one seems to muddle it's way though and we continue to advance. The world does at times seem to be going to hell in a hand basket, but I try to stay optimistic, mostly because it's beneficial to my general state of mind. There are quite a few very bright young people out there, and there has always been a large supply of the other type through out human history. Mike
     
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    As I've heard many times...

    Machines don't take prisoners, they prefer to maim or kill.
     
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    I used to work at an Ivy League University, I ran a dept. machine shop.

    My boss, at the time, was a published professor. He told me he was as better machinist than I was. I told him I was a tool and die maker.

    I came in the shop one day and saw him in back by the Lassey hand tapper. He asked," how do you use this"? I told him he was a better machinist than me, figger it out.

    I came in from lunch one day, he was in my shop with a potential assistant. My vertical bandsaw blade was broken and as was the cast adjustable arm on my horizontal saw. He looked at me, thrust something into my hands and said he needed it cut, and scurried out of my shop. I delivered it to his office, withpot a word, after I finished welding up my vert saw blade and brazing the cast arm on my horiz. saw.

    He used to give his students keys to my shop so they could work in there after hours. I'd come in in the morning and find broken tool bits in my lathes and mill, tools left out and one time, blood. I reported it but never heard anymore about it. These 'kids' had NO machine shop practical experience.

    After this I had enough. I went to the Dept. Chair and told him, almost my exact words, Bob is handing out keys to my shop like beads at Mardi Gras. He giggled a bit but saw I was serious. I kid you not.

    I left soon after to raise our daughter.


    A few years later, I get an email from my old Dept. Business Manager, I had adopted her as my boss and we kept in touch. She included a link saying that a female undergratuate student died when her hair got caught in a lathe chuck while working off hours.. She, the student, had advanced training in machine shop protocols, whatever that is, but still managed to make a fundamtenal mistake. Sad. I never heard what shut the lathe off. Anyhow my Business Manager said they all finally got it why I was so upset that day.

    When I was on the bench and going to night skool for 11 years to be an Engineer, we had a saying....those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. I've been in a lot of places, seen a lot of things and have done quite a bit in my time. The stories I got....

    I now am trying to prove that old saying wrong, I am currently an Educational Assistant in a Tech Community College. My first real class is Monday night, teaching Lathe Basics to future Engineers. Rolled up sleeves, no dangling jewelry and long hair restrained.o_O
     
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    TOOLMASTER you don't want to know Active Member

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    soon people will be on disability younger and younger thanks to these stupid toys they sell...in my skateboard days the fear of pain kept us out of trouble...the idiots now just don't care, just watch you tube.
     
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    atunguyd South Africa Active User Active Member

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    Actually thinking about it that pressure on his back could have fractured his spine. Keeping him in the machine till he could be moved while still kept immobilised would probably be the better option in the long run.


    Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk
     
  19. Profkanz

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    Profkanz writes,
    I have taught machine shop at Santa Ana College for thirty-six years. (retiring in 13 weeks but who's counting)The first week of every semester was spent in safety instruction. This was followed by a safety test with 100 questions. It takes 90% correct to pass. Long sleeves are not allowed at all, even rolled up. Jewelry is not allowed (including rings and watches). Safety glasses are required at all times.
    The only serious injury was when I was subbing another instructor's class. Student broke a finger by leaving a lathe chuck wrench in the chuck and with his hand holding the wrench, turned the machine on. Apparently the other instructor was less rigorous about safety.
     
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    Take the warning labels off every thing and let the planet get smarter.
     
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    dlane Active User H-M Supporter-Premium

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    Unfortunately most things comes with warning labels AND no instructions nowadays,
    They can print what not to do , but tell you nothing about how to make it work !.
    I weep for the future
     
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    TOOLMASTER you don't want to know Active Member

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    surely its a beatup
     
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    We're becoming a nation of whimps. So sad.
     
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    TOOLMASTER you don't want to know Active Member

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    ..........

    tumblr_o4gyd8E2pJ1s1vn29o1_500.jpg
     
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    This is one of my favorites, I like to pretend the lathes/mills have become sentient and are rebelling against their human overlords.

     
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    If you look at the chucking length, you might wonder about the level of sentience of whoever did that setup.
     
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    Aww, poor students...
     
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    The Liberal Arts Garage United States Active User H-M Supporter-Premium

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    Crossing the desert of Ignorance, searching for basic physics / mechanics in
    Third Grade ; they are inevitabilre in everything we do .........BLJHB
     

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