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Copycat Mill Build.

Discussion in 'MACHINE BUILD LOGS' started by Blackhawk, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk United States Active User Active Member

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    I should have thought the video through a little better but here is where i am.

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    hey blackhawk cool video and i will be watching this because i will be doing this once we get moved to ky. good job:))
     
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    all the visable green wires in my pics that are not in a shielded cable are equipment grounds
    in the pics showing the power supplies you will see heat shrinked wires going to the equipment ground terminal that the green wire is hooked to. that is the shield wires grounding.
    my terminal strips came from 2 denford cnc's i scrapped i have purchased from homedepot and used jumpers as you said also
    the two holes by the plug are 15 amp breakers. fuses would work fine and i stripped the plug from a pc power supply as you said
    another source for breakers and lighted switches is power strips they are sometimes cheaper than buying the parts. dollar stores are a cheap source
    if i missed something please ask
    steve

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    Blackhawk United States Active User Active Member

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    WOW, the light just came on about the jumpers and shield. will redo my setup. i have a lot of shielded wire left, is it ok to use for the stepper motors and how long are the runs from mill to enclosure.

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    Blackhawk United States Active User Active Member

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    dennis, thats a long move, i was in cali when i got orders for ft meade, took a week to drive. oh my aching back

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    I used shield wire for my steppers. mine was 18 gauge even on the 4200 motor it is big enough
    my wires from controller to machine are 10', i figured too much is better than too short. and i didnt know where i'd place the controller at the time
    steve
     
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    Blackhawk United States Active User Active Member

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    Thanks steve,

    For the noobs, like myself, who did not know, a soldering iron will burn through human flesh. dont worry though, it does not hurt for at least 2 to 3 minutes...................:angry: that is the amount of time you got to get some cold wiskey in your gut:whiteflag:




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    ouch!
     
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    You can add a bandsaw to the list of things that bite.

    This is from the Yahoo Bandsaw group:

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    Ouch indeed!

    M

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    Yeah buddy I know the only good thing is I have been on morphine and oxycodine for a while so I am able to take my morning dose and be able to drive but I think I will be having a issue with my bulged disk the first day :bawling:

    I am watching a couple of your threads good job. Are you going to be stationed in ky in near future?
     
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    hi
    i could not post the wiring diagram you were asking about in your pm so i posted it here for the DQ2722M controller
    in the box on the left side you will only use connections on pins 1,2,3,4 all the others are not used
    steve

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    Blackhawk United States Active User Active Member

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    Thanks,

    i guess I have another problem then. Hope it's not a bad driver.

    when I plug it in the green light blinks twice then goes out and red light starts blinking. I jog the z and motor jerks erratically.

    Disconnect motor from driver same blinking lights.
    disconnect breakout board from driver same blinking lights.
    turn off all dp switch same blinking lights

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    you have 2 sections of switches labled d1-d4 and d1-d6
    in the 4 switch set d1-d4 are all on
    in the d1-d6 section
    d1 on
    d2 off
    d3 off
    d4 on
    d5 off
    d6 off
    is that what you have? it should be
    Did you copy my mach3mill.xml file into your mach3 directory? you should and restart mach3
    let me know if that helps we need to see if anything is set wrong before changing drivers
    if there is still a problem we need to check the motor wiring for crossed wires
    how many wires was the 4200 motor and colors if your still not working
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    Here is the response I got from the company, not sure what it means. :nuts:

    Hi friend,
    How are you?
    Thanks very much for your Email.
    Would you please send me the driver DQ2722M to my Email address: jolie1985love@live.cn
    So that I can check the driver DQ2722M, is it ok?
    And you want to buy 1 pc 800-900oz-in motor+ 1 pc matching driver+ 1 pc power supply + 1 pc breakout board& cable, right?
    Thanks & best regards,
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    Blackhawk United States Active User Active Member

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    Steve,

    i installed your XML file, checked for crossed wires and set dp switches correctly and still get the alarm.
    the motor was 4 wires.
    i sent the company a video of the problem and hopefully I can get it resolved

    lanham
     
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    that power supply and controller you posted should not run that 4200 motor. the 4200 motor is 8 amp and that power supply is 3.3 the controller only goes to 5.6 amps. it shouldnt work
    check the motor with an ohm meter it should read .67 ohms through each winding and nothing across phase or to the housing
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    [video=youtube_share;hImyteVdacc]http://youtu.be/hImyteVdacc[/video]

    steve,

    this is the driver I am using, it is a video I sent to longs motor to see if they might replace it.

    i will check the ohms later and let you know,

    the other link was what I was thinking of using for the 4th axis

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    robert the controller will trip an alarm if it does not see a motor hooked to it. i had the same problem.
    everything has to be connected and set properly to test the driver. if you set the switches and tested it without the motor connected you still get an alarm
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    Thanks,

    Ill take an early lunch to see if i wired motor or breakout board wrong,

    lanham
     
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    Thanks Steve,

    turned out to be a wiring issue like you said

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    oh good your back on track
    I'm not getting email notices?
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    the website is giving me fits
    i double posted because the first one didnt show right up
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    steve

    a lot of my email from the forum are going to my bulk mail

    lanham​
     
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    if you have questions send them to my email jumpscam@yahoo.com i'll see it sooner there
    yahoo is giving me trouble ever since they updated also but i check my email often
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    Have not been working on the mill cause I have been moving. Transportation office told me months ago that since this is my terminal assignment they would move me without my retirement orders. I bought a house and gave my notice to post housing that I would be moving within a month, then went to transportation to schedule my move. Sorry sarg, no retirement orders no free move. :angry:

    I decide to look for the positive, I got a van and a ford ranger and its only 85 miles, ill make it an adventure and have fun, I've got a month right?

    what could go wrong?:whiteflag:

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    Back at it after a long break

     
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    check you motor tuning screen
    I think they are trying to move too fast
    and what do you have the switches set to on the drivers?
    I think you have the same motor and drivers as me
    Steve
     
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    Steve,

    All my parts are the same as yours. I'm doing some rewiring now that will hopefully fix it.

    I lost the nut that goes to the z axis, I think it is a m16x1, do you know where I can find one, been looking all over and can't find one

    Lanham
     
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    the only one i could find on ebay is not cheap item Number
    380883988225 but there is no locking set screw
    try contacting the company you got the screws from?
    Steve
     

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