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Billh50

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I was looking at the Grizzly G0705. Since I can't actually look at one. I figured I would ask the members here who do have one. Is it a decent machine for milling? I have limited space so the size is ok. Would love something like the Clausing 8520 but they are way out of reach price wise.
So tell me what you think of the G0705.
 

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Bill, I have this mill, only maybe an earlier version. Mine is pushing 25 years old, or thereabouts. Iam very happy with this machine. It is plenty heavy duty for most any hobby work and should give you excellent service.

If you are looking at a used machine, pay close attention to the in and out movement of the table (into and away from the column). Sorry always been confused what axis this is... anyway, on my mill, the leadscrew nut comes loose from its mounting position from time to time, and the table jams. This requires weaseling in underneath the table with a socket wrench and tightening the bolt back down. It's also possible the nut becomes worn, causing the jammed condition, requiring a replacement. Grizzly parts and service and supberb.

Second thing, after many years, the belts become frayed and worn. Not a big deal to replace. However Napa Auto Stores carry a good, inexpensive heavy duty lawnmower deck belt replacement that is a lot cheaper than Grizzly and other machine belts. Seems to be the same belt, near as I can tell.

Third thing : Some people don't like the round column. Some say it can throw the head off alignment with to heavy a cut. The end mill grabs into the work and the power of the machine causes the head to twist and embedd the cutter into the work. So, don't take monster cuts climb milling and you will be fine. The round column isn't an issue with my machine.

Anyway, I can heartedly recommend this machine model.

Glenn
 

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I have not had that mill, but I did have an RF30 (functionally similar). I found it was ok. Not great, but ok. The round column is not so much of an issue IMO for milling since the machine really shouldn't be used for heavy load cutting anyway. Where it can be an issue is if you need to use really long tools and really short tools on the same part. Even if you can make the range overlap you will get more flex with the quill fully extended as opposed to fully retracted. Even with modest load cuts. The big problem happens when you have to use a long tool and a short tool or have a part with multiple levels where you have to move the head up and down during what would otherwise be a single setup. There are some tricks, but they all require some readjustment. One of the most often used I have heard of is to mount a laser pointer on the head and make a line on a distant wall you can align it to. Of course this requires that your line and your mill spindle center line are perfectly parallel.

One of the advantages of the round column that often people don't mention is the ability to work on some parts that are longer than its normal work envelope in a single setup without moving the part. Of course you have to be able to rezero to the work piece in both X & Y. (I actually have used the swivel (and sliding) head on my Hurco KMB1 to machine parts longer than its 24" working envelope.) For extreme Z range differences it has a knee so I really don't have an issue.

If you do not have a mill and the price is right its better than not having a mill In my opinion, but I would probably favor the slightly cheaper G0704 if I was paying retail.
 

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bl00,
I think it might be just a bit too big. The only larger machines I have seen that might fit in my garage are the Clausing 8520 and the Rotex that someone posted.
 

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Bill, you might look for a Rockwell, as well as the Clausing.
 

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That G3103 looks nice. Might be about the max I could go for a machine size wise. Not sure I would be able to move it into the garage though. I am going to have to go out and measure the garage tomorrow and see just exactly what I can fit and where. Might have to get rid of some stuff in the garage as well.
 

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The g3103 looks like a smoking deal. The vise looks huge for the size of the mill, but clearly would hold some serious work. You can't beat "new condition". Plus looks like all the basic tooling you would need. For the few extra bucks, better than a new round column G 0705. I don't think these mills are as tall as a Bridgeport.

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I just checked my G1008. The height with the top cover open is about 75in. You need to be able to open the cover if the G3103 is like my G1008 and does not have a spindle lock. I have to hold the spindle pulley to tighten or loosen the drawbar nut. Easy to do, but since I do this often I do not bother closing the cover.
 

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height is no problem. garage ceiing is at least 10' Grizzly G3103roblem is getting it to the house then into the garage. That was why I was looking at benchtop stuff unless I could find something not much bigger.
 

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What is your driveway like? Paved or stones? How much height difference between driveway and garage.

My drive is paved and I have about 1 1/2in step up from the driveway to the concrete floor of the garage. My machinist friend told me "no problem" - and happy to report he was correct.

I just needed to use a few pieces of black iron pipe. We used an engine hoist to get the mill from the trailer onto the pipe on the driveway, we then rolled the mill on the pipe, relocating a piece of pipe as it became free from the base.

Once we got to the driveway, I put down a piece of plywood, so we cut the height difference in half, then tilted the mill back to get the front of the base onto a piece of pipe on the plywood, then continued until we got to the concrete edge of the garage. Then tilted back again onto a piece of pipe on the concrete. Then continued.

You will need two people to do this safely for the tilting, also for the extra muscle. It can be done.

The benefit of floor standing is not having to lift the machine onto a bench. Never easy.

I wrote this then realised I missed the part in your reply where you have to get it into the house first, then the garage. Drat, not as easy as it was for me with access directly to the garage.
 

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Bill, when you are ready to buy a mill, remember that there are people here on H-M that are willing and able to help you. Unfortunately, I am 3000 miles away, but plenty of others are close to you.
 

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The problem with some of these is this.
1) Getting it to the house.
2) garage space is minimal so anything the size of a bridgeport or larger footprint is too big.
 

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Bill I have a trailer good for +1000 pounds and a 2 ton motor hoist.
Just need to work on a schedule.

Besides, I'll have to get my "junk" out of your way..:grin big:

I moved my 8520 with nothing more than my Ford Fiesta! If you looked up the definition for PACKED, there was a picture of that car with the mill inside! And I did it all by hand!
 

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I also have to find something that does not need a lot of work to be able to use it because of my health. The Pope looks like it would need a lot of work just to clean it up to use. The G3103 looks good but getting it to here is the problem.
 

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The problem with some of these is this.
1) Getting it to the house.
2) garage space is minimal so anything the size of a bridgeport or larger footprint is too big.
Bill, just keep looking for something that you think will work well for you. I am pretty damned sure there is enough H-M member support in your part of the country to get it moved and installed. Just ask!
 

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Well I just put a bid on a Clausing 8530 located on Long Island. Sure hope I can figure a way to get it here if I win. Or at least get someone on LI to pick it up for me and hold til I can get it.
 

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Bill, I live in Brooklyn, I could lend a hand for a day, I have some rigging equipment and experience moving machines but I don't have a vehicle sufficient to move the mill. So if you or another member can arrange transport, I can help get it from its location on Long island into your shop. Also, I might be able to rent a van cheaply, if you want to go that route.
 

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Eddy,
I can use the wife's landscaping trailer an I have straps. Wife would have to drive as I have trouble sitting in the truck.
My other thought would be to check and see how much to deliver.
 

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Uhaul rents trailers affordable. They have a motorcycle trailer 4x8 with ramp that is rated over 1000lbs, I think it's uhaul rated 1500lbs, which means real world rated 2000lbs+, the larger 5x9 will easily do 3000lbs, I've done it several times. Total costs after nj taxes is 20-25 dollars for those trailers.

BTW, I do these tows now with an Suv Chevy Equinox, just don't do lots of hills and mountains and she is fine

I'd be all up for a trip up to New Britain, CT area for a day of moving, cleaning, setting up. Weekends are best. Let me know what type of tools to bring.

Rich
 

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A Saturday morning is best for me also. Will give me time to make the room also. I have an engine hoist here to get it off.
 

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I have some 4-5 foot pinch bars I'll throw in the car just in case. Saturday works for me. I can do mystic on Sunday than. Let us know if you get the machine.:encourage:

Imy really pulling for you on this.
 

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Eddy,
I can use the wife's landscaping trailer an I have straps. Wife would have to drive as I have trouble sitting in the truck.
My other thought would be to check and see how much to deliver.
Okay sounds doable, lets see how the auction goes, and take it from there. Im somewhat flexible on days so shouldn't be problem.
 

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As it gets closer to end it looks like it may go over my max bid.
 

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That's the problem with machines in that size, their popularity... I'm still pulling for you though, I wanna have an excuse to go to mystic this weekend:encourage:
 

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Didn't win it. But still looking. Gonna check one out in Northern NJ.
 
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