In the cesspool that describes most of the internet, there are places where the cream rises above it all. This is one of those places. Just machinists sharing what they lave learned, what works for them, and helping others when they ask questions. Best of all, the conversations stay positive, without backbiting and condescending put downs. I love these forums! Thanks, Nels, for starting it and working hard to keep it true to your vision. Thanks, also, to all the volunteer moderators who show us the paths and keep everything running smoothly.