80% Lowers

Bluedog said:
My understanding is that you can sell a homemade firearm, you just can't make it with the intent to sell. It's all about intent. Now if you were selling several a year it would be hard to convince BATF that you are not manufacturing. It is very grey.
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You are correct.
 
MattM said:
Is it legal for me to allow friends to use my machine and tools to complete their own lowers under my guidance?
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No you cant. You will be aiding in the manufacture and hence would need to be a 07 license holder.
 
Bingo! Perfectly legal to sell your homemade firearms. VERY illegal to build them with the INTENT to sell or gift.

The hottest thing in 80% jigs these days are jigs where you use a small trim router & hand drill or press to do the milling.

80% arms or Modulus jigs are HOT and usually on backorder.

Right now you won't save money over a $40.00 Anderson lower. But things change RAPIDLY !! And I won't go into politics to explain why. It is always nice to have the ability to make your own.
Advice? Go watch some of the many youtube videos of finishing 80%er's

If you get the build your own firearm bug, there is a swell forum just for that. But I don't want to get into trouble mentioning other forums here either.
This is still by far my favorite home machining hangout!!
 
n3480h said:
Certainly no need to say sorry, Stan. Firearm regulations are nearly as obtuse and burdensome as aviation regs. I normally have to read each paragraph about 4 times before I understand them. It really gets fun when they refer the reader to Subsection C42, Article III, Paragraphs 2 and 408, UNLESS . . . . . :confused:

Tom
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I would agree with that if Feds didn't have the market cornered on Aviation Regulations but throw in state laws on firearms and, POW!, you get a confusing stew with chicken, beef, hotdogs, and tofu. With a little granola sprinkled on top.
 
Bradrock said:
Bingo! Perfectly legal to sell your homemade firearms. VERY illegal to build them with the INTENT to sell or gift.

The hottest thing in 80% jigs these days are jigs where you use a small trim router & hand drill or press to do the milling.

80% arms or Modulus jigs are HOT and usually on backorder.

Right now you won't save money over a $40.00 Anderson lower. But things change RAPIDLY !! And I won't go into politics to explain why. It is always nice to have the ability to make your own.
Advice? Go watch some of the many youtube videos of finishing 80%er's

If you get the build your own firearm bug, there is a swell forum just for that. But I don't want to get into trouble mentioning other forums here either.
This is still by far my favorite home machining hangout!!
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I have watched a number of videos. The router and drill press method doesn't seem to make sense if you have a full size mill.

Would it be legal to let someone watch me make one?

I sure agree about all the laws,rules and regulations. Ever try to get a license to produce and sell wine or spirits? We did.
 
I haven't read all of the laws, rules, regulations other than what has been said here. But could you legally sell your "homemade" toy to a license gun dealer? Or anyone that has their FFL Dealers license?
 
ScrapMetal said:
Since you have a full size mill don't even consider getting one of the jigs. I found them to be a waste of time and they actually made the finishing of the lower more difficult. If you want to see how it's done and what's put in to it here is a link to how I did mine: http://www.arcaneiron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=28


Hope that helps,

-Ron
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Seems like making those jaws would take a lot of time. Beautiful work though.
 
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