Smaller Kurt Vises Are So Expensive!

Thanks for all your suggestions! Because of this thread- learning that these prices are actually not entirely out of line, kind of an "it is what it is" sort of thing- I went ahead and picked up a Kurt A50 in very nice condition for $280 (and a super unfortunate $100 shipping). Probably a pretty good deal on the vise, though with shipping accounted for: probably only an "ok" deal. Either way, I need the vise to move to the next step in my journey and just didn't want a massive 6" vise hanging over the 8" table...
 
When I was searching for a vise for my mill I wanted a Kurt.....of course, but was going to go Glacern but then started reading a lot of good things about Phase II+'s vises and bought one. Well, years later I'm still happy with it. Check them out if you can.
 
Thanks for the recommendations! My Kurt A50 arrived today and I have to say- that definitely was the right move; it's the perfect size for this mill! I do realize that you'd typical mount it on the center dovetail, but unfortunately the ram is froze up on the mill and I haven't been able to free it yet. Mounting the vise back one dovetail allows me to use the most amount of y-axis travel.

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Next up a set of parallels and a set of R8 collets and I'm finally good to go. I wired the mill last night using a Teco VFD and it's running really well.
 
To free the ram, you need soft but heavy blows. Cast iron is brittle. Hammering on cast iron breaks it. I had the same problem with both of my Millrites when I got them -- locked up solid. First, mark the column and turret with a Sharpie so you can see any movement and then squirt some good penetrating oil in there everywhere you can. Let the penetrant soak in. Find something like a 4 foot long 6x6 (what I used.) Hang it from the rafters in line with the ram on two ropes. Loosen the nuts and give the ram a few solid hits from the ram from both ends with the end grain of the post. Don't overdo it, and do not be impatient. Squirt some more penetrant on it and walk away for at least a couple hours. Lather, rinse, repeat until you see a bit of movement at your marks. The war is over, now it is just a matter of time until victory. It will pretty rapidly start moving better with each cycle. Keep wiping off whatever gunk gets exposed by the movement, and keep on with the penetrant. I like Kroil for this. After you can push the ram by hand fairly easily from each end to the other, and you have all the corrosion worked out of the slides, start working way oil in. When it is well oiled throughout and no more gunk is coming out, you are done. Swear a solemn oath to yourself that you will move and oil the ram at least twice a year, even if you don't need to.

Edit: Your mill looks really nice, and you have done a nice job on the VFD installation. Perhaps it has been sitting for years and needs some use to loosen up a bit...
 
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You sure are a wealth of knowledge, Bob! Very much appreciate the detailed instructions on freeing the ram!
 
Feel free to PM me if you want to. Also think about joining the Yahoo BurkeMills group. There are lots of helpful people there. Keep coming back here in between...
 
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