Pm-25mv Manual

I was asked for a copy of the manual for the PM-25MV. For those of you who are interested here it is! There is next to no information contained in the manual. Matt has told me that they are working on an exploded view of the machine with a parts list specific to the PM-25. One note for those of you who have purchased the mill. The adjustment screw that secures the head of the mill from rotation is made out of something that I think is may be metal, but I am not sure. Mine was stripped right out of the crate. I ended up purchasing a higher grade bolt welding a washer on it and grinding it to the correct profile. Matt sent out a replacement, which is the same as the hold down T-bolts included in the tool kit. I would plan on replacing it right off, because you will be unable to hold tram with the bolt stripped. It is a bit of a job as you have to take the head off, but at least you learn about whats under the hood. I was able to rout some wires for the lighting I added, which makes things nice and clean looking.

Well I was unable to upload the manual. It is 15 pages and must exceed the file size allowed on the site. I am also unable to attach it to a PM, so if you want a copy send me a PM with your e-mail and I will send you the PDF.

Brooks

brav65, sorry that you had that trouble with your Mill. Sure is disturbing as a future owner of this machine that something "right out of the crate" is broke. What was Matt's response to this besides sending a replacement? Also a little disturbing knowing there manual is lacking! When I first contacted Matt about the PM25MV, I inquired as to why he didn't have any completed pictures of this machine on there web site. And he replied that his team was working at updating things. I noticed that dates on the web site were not very current. He sent two pictures of completed Mill's at there factory. Here they are:
Notice in the background of the first picture right behind the completed machine how far these machines are taken down for build/rebuild to there specs.

I was not too surprised by the poor quality fasteners. Having spent a great deal of time researching a mill I knew what to expect. Matt is looking for an alternative to the bolt supplied, but the head profile needed is unique. Keep in mind that these tools are not 100% ready to go out of the box. Even $100 machines require setup and adjustment. Add to that the fact that they are shipped half way around the world and you can understand the situation. They are an incredible value once you see what they are capable. Matt is not a huge corporation like Grizzly. He only has a handful of people helping him along with his wife Nicole. The upside is you get to speak with the guy that is the final wor, the bad news is he has to wear a number of different hats. He has called/emailed me at 12:00AM his time. He works really had to keep his customers happy.

I agree with everything. You can't get the kind of service he provides with Big box or corporation. When I talked to Matt he even said that he goes to China or where every the basic units are produced several times a year. He said he checks regularly on quality production and troubleshoots. For the size of his company I think that's a lot of devotion/dedication to a product he sells. Also to add a three year warranty that's just about unheard of in todays market.

I'll have to remember this, I've placed a deposit on this same machine and expect it to arrive in about 5wks now.

Hey fellas -
After my PM-25 arrived, I had some trouble getting the head to hold true. Reading through the forums, I found this was somewhat common for the bolt that holds the head to be stripped or strip the first time you go about tightening it up. I took advantage of the opportunity to do the "3-bolt mod" while I had the head off the column. Used stainless hardware to put it back together. Pretty stink'n solid now! A worthy upgrade, if you are going to take the head off anyway.

Regards -

JohnJohn

Nice work John, I am kicking myself for not doing the three bolt mod while I had the head off. If Mark from Johnson Gabrication has any luck making up new gibs for his machine I will probably do the three bolt mod then. Congrats on the new mill. I love mine.

JohnJohn301 said:

Hey fellas -
After my PM-25 arrived, I had some trouble getting the head to hold true. Reading through the forums, I found this was somewhat common for the bolt that holds the head to be stripped or strip the first time you go about tightening it up. I took advantage of the opportunity to do the "3-bolt mod" while I had the head off the column. Used stainless hardware to put it back together. Pretty stink'n solid now! A worthy upgrade, if you are going to take the head off anyway.

Regards -

JohnJohn

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Yup, did this mod to mine as well as the tramming aids right after I bought it and life became wonderful.

Looks like Matt is doing the "3 bolt" head mod standard on the PM-25!! I got to say, sounds like he is listening and making improvements to this popular mill.
Look at item #3 under "Special Features". http://www.machinetoolonline.com/PM-MV-BenchMills.html

Now that's just too cool.