Sieg X0 micro drill/mill

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Hello everybody,

I am fairly new on this forum as well as in machining in general.
I was planning on acquiring a Sieg X0 drill/mill to do some watch and clock work (including making gears eventually) and was wondering if someone has some experience or other advise before I place the order.
Thanks in advance and hope to hear something.

Jan
 
Hello everybody,

I am fairly new on this forum as well as in machining in general.
I was planning on acquiring a Sieg X0 drill/mill to do some watch and clock work (including making gears eventually) and was wondering if someone has some experience or other advise before I place the order.
Thanks in advance and hope to hear something.

Jan

I've not come across the Sieg X0, have you got a link Jan?
I have a Sieg X1 Micro Mill which I'm in the process of converting to CNC with some help from the forum.

I'd think that a CNC conversion would be helpful to you too for watch and clock work.


M
 
There are several places selling the X0 (here in Europe at least). Here is a link http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/Milling-Machines/Model-X0-Micro-Mill to one of them.
Thanks for your interest.
Are you happy with your X1?

Yes, for a small mill I'm pleased with my X1, although I confess I've yet to do anything productive with it yet.
That X0 looks interesting, but the downside will be the round column which may be prone to flex, and will probably mean re-tramming every time you move the head up or down the column.

I'd recommend a different make for the precision and accuracy that you'll need.
Have a look at the Proxxon MF70: http://www.emachinetool.com/new/catalog/vertical.cfm?ProductID=719

Here it is compared to my larger X1: http://darkfibre.nl/micro-mill-overview/ and there's some useful reading on that site too.

The Proxxon is available from many suppliers here in the US, including Amazon, so probably can be found in the UK as well.

If you don't go the CNC route you'll probably need to look into getting a rotary index or dividing head rotary table for the precise positioning that cutting gears and sprockets requires.

I'm not saying that the X0 is totally unsuitable, just that there might be better options that could save you a lot of frustration.


M
 
Thanks for pointing me to the Proxxon MF 70.
I got convinced that the Proxxon was indeed better suited for my needs after studying the specs and doing some searching on the internet.
It seems to me that the German quality might be better than the Chinese, but that might just be an impression.
The capacity for the Sieg is a little more than the Proxxon, but for now I would not need that. I probably would be better of buying something bigger (and sturdier) than the X0 when need arises.
Anyhow, I ordered the Proxxon MF 70 today and am now waiting for it. Hope it will arive this week :)).
 
Thanks for pointing me to the Proxxon MF 70.
I got convinced that the Proxxon was indeed better suited for my needs after studying the specs and doing some searching on the internet.
It seems to me that the German quality might be better than the Chinese, but that might just be an impression.
The capacity for the Sieg is a little more than the Proxxon, but for now I would not need that. I probably would be better of buying something bigger (and sturdier) than the X0 when need arises.
Anyhow, I ordered the Proxxon MF 70 today and am now waiting for it. Hope it will arive this week :)).


Make sure you post your first impressions when it arrives. You'll also need a watchmakers or jewelers lathe. There are several good YouTube videos of those.


M
 
You made the right choice with the Proxxon.

I've not seen an X0 before. How can you mill without a provision for X-Y movement?
 
You made the right choice with the Proxxon.

I've not seen an X0 before. How can you mill without a provision for X-Y movement?


I wondered that at first, but if you look further down in that link you'll see that the table is listed as an extra! :nuts:


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M

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Make sure you post your first impressions when it arrives. You'll also need a watchmakers or jewelers lathe. There are several good YouTube videos of those.


M

I do have a lathe. It is not a classical watchmakers lathe like Boley etc, but a Sieg N1 http://www.siegind.com/products_det...=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1325833166395.html.
It does more or less what I need it for. One drawback is that it does not take WW-collets and hence mounting very small watch parts can be impossible. I do use ER-11 collets but the closing ring gets in the way sometimes.
 
I do have a lathe. It is not a classical watchmakers lathe like Boley etc, but a Sieg N1 http://www.siegind.com/products_det...=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1325833166395.html.
It does more or less what I need it for. One drawback is that it does not take WW-collets and hence mounting very small watch parts can be impossible. I do use ER-11 collets but the closing ring gets in the way sometimes.

That's a cute lathe! :))


I'm sure you've looked into it, but I guess that there's no possibility of adapting the Sherline WW collet adapter to fit the Sieg spindle?


M
 
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